China’s Master Plan to Destroy the F-22 and F-35 in Battle

The Russians and Chinese have plans to beat us in the air.

Actually, they may have plans but that doesn't mean those plans are credible.

1. Beat us by numbers. Far more SU-35’s and J-11s than F-15/16/18 variants.

That is not correct. The SU-35 only got to a point where it is now able to be used operationally (the SU-35S), and there are definitely FAR more F-15s and F-16s than there are SU-35s and J-11s. Actually, the total number of F-16s alone are more than all Flanker derivatives (from SU-27s to SU-33s to J-11s to SU-30s) in existence.

2. Match us in technology. Russia has the SU-50, and the Chinese J-xx, are both knock offs of the F-35.

Two points here: first of all, the SU-50 (PakFa) and the J-20 do not match the US in technology. The PakFa is an absolutely capable plane, particularly if the Russians are able to pump more money into it, but it is not an F-22. What it is is a plane that can be deadly to any 4th generation fighter out there, and once operational it will be a really capable platform, but it is simply not a Raptor (even the Russians admit that). As for the J-20 ...no one who is not high-level Chinese or alphabet-soup organization (CIA/NSA etc) knows the actual capability of that plane. Some have speculated it is quite capable as a missile truck, while others have said that it is limited as a fighter. Fact is, neither of them match the technology of the United States. Second point: neither is a knock-off of the F-35. Definitely not the PakFa, and the J-20 only uses the intake structure of the F-35. None are knockoffs of the F-35, and the closest plane that could be considered that is the J-31 (the 'other' Chinese stealth fighter), which at some angles looks like a twin-engined 35.

3. Beat us in technology. Russian and Chines 4th generation fighters have advanced AESA radar and plasma stealth.

Absolutely not, and it is quite ridiculous to be honest with you Thunder 90 (although in past posts you do tend to exaggerate Red Force capabilities). For one, Russian radars are powerful (going back to the PESAs - note, PESA not AES - in the MiG-25 decades back), but their AESA technology is not equal to that of the US. American radar technology, particularly cutting-edge LPI AESAs, are simply the world standard. And when you move to China ...the same gulf between the US and Russia is the same delta between Russia and China. Chinese radars are getting better, but just like their engines, they are not even at the level of Russia let alone the Us.

I will not bother discussing plasma stealth. Just because something has SOME theoretical merit doesn't mean that its real-world applications are credible.

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