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Does the U.S. Navy Need a 21st Century F-14 Tomcat?
The National Interest ^ | October 13, 2015 | Dave Majumdar

Posted on 10/13/2015 10:57:54 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: sukhoi-30mki

It was called the F-21 Tomcat II. Grumman intentionally built in product improvement into the original F-14.


21 posted on 10/14/2015 6:09:29 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ZOOKER
Carrier landings are so hard on AC, need a plane designed specifically for that. Any other branch it's just extra weight

Bingo!

The other difference is that the Navy likes to have two engines in their fighter/attack aircraft, although several have been single engine - A-4, F-8, A-7, plus (obviously) all the piston fighter/attack aircraft.

22 posted on 10/14/2015 6:35:14 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The big thing about the Tomcat was the Phoenix. IIRC, there was a study about putting lots of Phoenix and half a dozen Weapons Operators in a transport aircraft and use that for Air Superiority. Fighter Jocks didn’t like that idea at all!


23 posted on 10/14/2015 6:56:08 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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Can anyone think of a USAF fighter which was "beefed up" for carrier service"?

The Russians did it w/ the SU-27....SU-33. Just sayin'.

24 posted on 10/15/2015 6:39:18 AM PDT by Vinnie
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Yea but the F-4 was coal powered. Just look at the trail it leaves. Don’t you know coal be bad.


25 posted on 10/15/2015 6:47:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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Can anyone think of a USAF fighter which was "beefed up" for carrier service"?

Only one which comes to mind is the FJ-2 Fury, an effort to navalize the F-86.

26 posted on 10/15/2015 7:00:12 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Southern and dang proud of it)
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One of the most enduring memories from my youth in eastern NC was watching B-52s from Seymour-Johnson barreling along the low-level penetration routes. With those P&W burners pouring smoke at full-throttle, you could see a B-52 approaching long before you could hear it.

But when a BUFF passes overhear at 200'..... wow.

27 posted on 10/15/2015 9:36:15 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Southern and dang proud of it)
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;-0. B-52’S are/were initially coal powered also!


28 posted on 10/15/2015 9:39:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: Vinnie

Russian aircraft are made of steel...remember the captured Foxbat and the rust?

/sarc


29 posted on 10/15/2015 10:25:28 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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Only one which comes to mind is the FJ-2 Fury, an effort to navalize the F-86.

"The naval modifications of the FJ-2 had increased weight by about 500 kg over the F-86F, but unfortunately had not succeeded in delivering a fully carrier-capable fighter. A decision had already been made to give it to land-based squadrons of the US Marine Corps.

Construction was slowed due to demand for the F-86 in Korea; the FJ-2 was not produced in large numbers until after that conflict had concluded. Only seven aircraft had been delivered by then end of 1953, and it was January 1954 before the first aircraft was delivered to a Marine squadron, VMF-122. The Navy preferred the lighter F9F Cougar due to its superior slow-speed performance for carrier operations, and the 200 FJ-2 models built were delivered to the United States Marine Corps. The Marines did make several cruises aboard carriers and tried to solve the type's carrier handling problems, but the FJ-2 was never really satisfactory. In 1956, the FJ-2 already disappeared from front-line service, and reserve units retired it in 1957."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_FJ-2/-3_Fury

30 posted on 10/16/2015 3:46:28 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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