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People v Jennifer Jorgensen (Breaking: NY Appeals Court rules a six-day-old child is not a person)
New York State Court of Appeals ^ | 10/22/15 | New York State Court of Appeals

Posted on 10/22/2015 7:19:44 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

On May 30, 2008, defendant, driving eastbound on Whiskey Road in Suffolk County, entered the westbound lane and struck the vehicle of Robert and Mary Kelly head on, killing them both. At the time of the collision, defendant was 34 weeks pregnant. She was taken to a local hospital where, due to signs of fetal distress, she consented to an emergency cesarean section.

Despite the best efforts of hospital personnel, the baby died six days later. An autopsy confirmed that the cause of death was due to injuries sustained in the accident....

Following deliberations, the jury returned a verdict finding the defendant not guilty on all counts except manslaughter in the second degree for the death of her child. The Appellate Division affirmed defendant's conviction (113 AD3d 793 [2d Dept 2014]). A Judge of this Court granted defendant leave to appeal. We now reverse

The underlying facts and circumstances of this appeal are tragic to all parties involved. The sole issue that we reach on this appeal, however, is whether a woman can be convicted of manslaughter for reckless conduct that she engaged in while pregnant that caused injury to the fetus in utero where the child was born alive but died as a result of that injury days later We hold that it is evident from the statutory scheme that the legislature, in enacting Penal Law § 125.05 (1) and § 125.15 (1), did not intend to hold pregnant women criminally responsible for conduct with respect to themselves and their unborn fetuses unless such conduct is done intentionally...

Had the legislature intended to include pregnant women in the class of individuals who may be guilty of manslaughter in the second degree for reckless acts committed while pregnant, resulting in the eventual death of their child, it could clearly have done so. Moreover, had defendant's fetus died in utero, then, plainly, defendant could not have been prosecuted under the manslaughter statute because the fetus would not have fallen under the definition of a "person" ...had defendant not consented to the cesarean section with the result that the child be born alive, she would not have been prosecuted for manslaughter in the second degree. Thus, if we accorded the word "person" the interpretation advocated by the People, it would create a perverse incentive for a pregnant woman to refuse a cesarean section out of fear that if her baby is born alive she would face criminal charges for her alleged reckless conduct, jeopardizing the health of the woman and the unborn fetus. This is plainly not what the legislature intended when it enacted the definition of "person" under section 125.05 (1) or the manslaughter in the second degree offense as delineated in Penal Law § 125.15 (1).

The imposition of criminal liability upon pregnant women for acts committed against a fetus that is later born and subsequently dies as a result of injuries sustained while in utero should be clearly defined by the legislature, not the courts. It should also not be left to the whim of the prosecutor.

FAHEY, J.(dissenting): I respectfully dissent and would affirm the Appellate Division’s order. I cannot join in a result that analyzes our statutes to determine that a six-day-old child is not a person...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; fetus; life; manslaughter; moralabsolutes; personhood; prolife
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The dissent cuts through the BS and gets it right:

I cannot join in a result that analyzes our statutes to determine that a six-day-old child is not a person...

1 posted on 10/22/2015 7:19:44 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

These Appeals Court Judges should be hung!


2 posted on 10/22/2015 7:22:17 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So, even when the mother WANTS the baby, the State can now call it NOT a baby?


3 posted on 10/22/2015 7:27:13 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude

Herod’s murdering of children comes to mind. Some power out there hates human life so much it wants to kill it in the womb.


4 posted on 10/22/2015 7:29:21 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The woman lost her baby and has suffered enough for that loss. Putting her on trial was wrong.

Had another vehicle hit her and the baby was killed, that person should be on trial and I would vote to convict.

5 posted on 10/22/2015 7:30:25 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Physically sickening.

Sick sick people, these judges.


6 posted on 10/22/2015 7:31:28 AM PDT by uncitizen (Trump: Saying what we are all thinking)
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To: Artcore

Hanged.

The word is hanged.

A man is hanged.

A man was hanged.

A man will be hanged.

When you write that a man is hung, it’s not suitable for this forum, it pornography.


7 posted on 10/22/2015 7:32:19 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: Artcore

Whether they are hung or not is a matter of speculation. But they should all be hanged.


8 posted on 10/22/2015 7:33:28 AM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: BBB333

Oh...get over yourself


9 posted on 10/22/2015 7:33:55 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: Artcore

They said you was hung!

And they was right!


10 posted on 10/22/2015 7:34:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Michael.SF.

So she killed TWO people who were in their correct lane and you think SHE suffered enough?


11 posted on 10/22/2015 7:36:19 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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Herod’s murdering of children

We should call the judge's office, hound them, interview them, and call them "Judge Herod" as it is appropriate.

12 posted on 10/22/2015 7:40:24 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A dangerous extension of “the right to choose” if this stands.


13 posted on 10/22/2015 7:41:28 AM PDT by DBrow
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What about the two adults she killed? If it was being considered her conduct was negligent with regard to the fetus, uh, er.. Not a Person, why isn't she charged with manslaughter in the deaths of the two adults? They must have been conservatives, and again, aren't considered Persons. What a country!
14 posted on 10/22/2015 7:41:58 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: BBB333

Lighten up Francis


15 posted on 10/22/2015 7:42:42 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Artcore
These Appeals Court Judges should be hung!

They may or may not be, but they certainly should be hanged.

16 posted on 10/22/2015 7:43:16 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER
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To: BBB333

Only one with a dirty mind would think like that


17 posted on 10/22/2015 7:44:02 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: DBrow
A dangerous extension of “the right to choose” if this stands.

It will stand. In New York the Court of Appeals in the highest court. The only way to overturn it would be to rewrite the statute. However, there is no way that Cuomo and the downstate liberals would ever, ever, do that.

18 posted on 10/22/2015 7:44:46 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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