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Long Range Strike Bomber Contract Awarded to Northrop Grumman
Posted on 10/27/2015 2:34:35 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ZOOKER
What's with the sheet?I'm guessing there is something racial here...
To: Gen.Blather
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posted on
10/27/2015 2:56:19 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
To: sparklite2
Do cruise missiles and drones, not to mention ICBMs, make long range bombers obsolete? Are we gearing up to fight the last war?
They were making that same argument in the late 1950's and early 1960's, which is why that dumb ass Robert McNamara cancelled the North American B-70 Valkyrie which would have been the replacement for the B-52, in addition to cancelling the Skybolt air-to-ground missile which would have given the B-52's superior 'stand off' capability.
The alleged 'weakness' of the manned bomber is actually it's greatest strength, in that a bomber CAN be recalled if it's mission is deemed unnecessary due to political or military developments while the bomber is in flight. Once an ICBM is launched, there IS no 'recall' and somewhere a nuke is going to be detonated even if it is suddenly determined that "we don't really want to do that".
Bombers provide flexibility that missiles never will.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:00:52 PM PDT
by
mkjessup
(Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
To: sparklite2
Once you have air superiority then these bombers are really handy to have.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:05:52 PM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: 17th Miss Regt
I’m sure Obama will have Press conference and tell the world everything about the bombers if he has to move out of the White House
To: Red Badger
They are saying they want to build 80 to 100 with a per plane cost around 500 mil... which seems crazy low.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:09:33 PM PDT
by
TalonDJ
To: mkjessup
Tell that to Slim Pickens
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:10:58 PM PDT
by
TalonDJ
To: TalonDJ
Or Colonel Grady (Failsafe) ;)
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:13:03 PM PDT
by
mkjessup
(Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
To: 17th Miss Regt
We used B52s in Afghanistan.
Cruise missiles can be launched from the bombers as well.
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
until 1943 in the PacificGrumman F6F Hellcat. Love that plane.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:15:08 PM PDT
by
MUDDOG
To: sparklite2
The lesson for today...
ICBMs and cruise missiles are one way committments. Once lauched they cannot be recalled nor can they be intentionally destroyed by the sender (despite what you see in the movies).
The manned bomber has the flexibility of going to the brink then
A) Being recalled by command authority or
B) Being intelligently controlled by the onboard crew when targeting flexibility requires decisions, not choices of limited options.
The success of unmanned air vehicles is that they also are intelligently controlled by a crew. The drawback is they are incredibly vulnerable in a tactical situation. They cannot escape, evade or fight back against interception.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:15:53 PM PDT
by
pfflier
To: Vermont Lt
You first use the really expensive ordinance, but once you gain air superiority then you start dropping the Mk 82 GPB. Dumb, cheap and devastating.
For that you need bombers with huge payloads.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:19:47 PM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: 17th Miss Regt
A piece of the plane will end up being built in each Congressman’s district, assembled in three different places, an amphibian version will be built for the Marines and then the shouting about cost over-runs will begin.
Oldplayer
To: 17th Miss Regt
To: 17th Miss Regt
yep, and very likely all of the plane’s electronics will be made in China. Sorry for being soooooo damned cynical
To: 17th Miss Regt
The B-52 took it’s maiden flight in 1952. It entered service in 1955.
NINETEEN FIFTY-FIVE.
1955.
That is an aircraft design that has been in continuous service for SIXTY years.
The B-70 and the B-1 were both cancelled. Reagan revived the B-1 Program but it was always “out of favor” for some reason. After we figured out we could do stealth, the B-2 was contracted.
The B-2 was first flown in 1989, and went into service in 1997. That is 18 years ago. AND THEY ONLY BUILT 21 OF THEM.
The biggest problem is that there is no aircraft money because the F-35 program has sucked it all up.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:40:30 PM PDT
by
Bryan24
(When in doubt, move to the right..........)
To: sparklite2
"Do cruise missiles and drones, not to mention ICBMs, make long range bombers obsolete?"
No.
"Are we gearing up to fight the last war?"
According to the political class folks of yesteryear, that was World War 1. Besides, one of the influential billionaires (automatic presidential material, according to the socialist political class) recently said that there wouldn't be any more wars.
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:49:35 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
To: 17th Miss Regt
And don’t forget to tell the political chattering class that they’re defective, and only 20 of them will be built.
;-D
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posted on
10/27/2015 3:55:10 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
To: 17th Miss Regt
Russia will post YouTube videos about the new aircraft soon.
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posted on
10/27/2015 4:01:44 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
To: MUDDOG
Always liked it too but loved the F4U Corsair the most from that era.
The P47 would be in the running for second.
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posted on
10/27/2015 4:19:12 PM PDT
by
wally_bert
(I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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