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Tell that to the Marines!
US Defense Watch ^ | November 7, 2015 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 11/07/2015 2:05:06 PM PST by pboyington

Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus doesn’t want to hear the truth. He doesn’t want to know the facts.

Mabus is deliberately ignoring the Marines’ 900 page study, which describes in detail how women are poorly suited for combat.

Conducted over nine months, the Marine Corps’ study involved about 400 Marines, including approximately 100 women. Men and women were assigned to infantry and other ground combat roles as part of the research. They began the experiment in North Carolina and then moved to California, undertaking intensive training in the desert and mountains.

Marine officials concluded that women were injured more often than men, fired their weapons with less accuracy and experienced greater difficulty when tasked with evacuating simulated casualties.

Mabus’ political intransience has garnered the attention of Senator John McCain and Congressman Duncan Hunter, a former Marine and combat vet of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sen. John McCain, told the Washington Examiner that if Mabus was dissatisfied with the Marine Corps’ study then he should have halted it months ago. “Why would you have a study if you’re going to disregard the results of it?”

Exactly.

Mabus’ opinion of the Marine Corps’ findings drew sharp criticism from Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., who called the secretary “a political hack who cares more about doing the White House’s bidding than the combat effectiveness of the Marine Corps.”

Hunter has also called for Mabus’ resignation. In reference to Mabus, Hunter wrote to Secretary of Defense, Ash Carter, “He has openly disrespected the Marine Corps as an institution, and he insulted the competency of Marines by disregarding their professional judgment, their combat experience and their quality of leadership. Such a significant loss of respect is detrimental to the ability of the Navy Secretary to effectively lead the men and women of the Marine Corps and ensure the service maintains the highest level of combat effectiveness.”

The military is on the cusp of disastrous change, with a mandate to open all combat roles to women by January. Mabus has made his intentions clear, saying he won’t allow either the Navy or the Marine Corps to keep any specialties closed to women.

With all of this information at his fingertips, Mabus has refused to ask for any exemptions to stop women from serving in the combat arms of the Marine Corps. He has also stated the study was flawed and he refuses to even consider the fact that women were 0 for 26 at the Marine Infantry Officers’ Course this year.

Is Mabus a functioning Secretary of the Navy or is he just a White House operative parked at a desk in front of Navy and Marine Corps crests?

Mabus might know the truth, but he will never admit it, unless he wants to lose his 5 bedroom, Chevy Chase home, his six figure salary, his Pentagon 401K plan and his key to the executive john.

In the last two months, Mabus has been spouting off one line of nonsense after another. According to Mabus, combat in 2015 is about creative thinking, diversity of thought and technology. To Mabus, ground combat is something akin to visiting your neighborhood, Apple Store, where you can use a paintbrush program to be creative and discuss the new I Pad with several hipsters at the genius bar. For Mabus, these are the tenets of combat effectiveness. This is what wins wars. These are the linchpins of victory. Forget about riflemen closing with and destroying the enemy.

Mabus wouldn’t know about combat effectiveness if it ran over him with a M1 tank.

If Mabus knew anything, he would know that combat leaders should limit their creativity and imagination and leave that to the intell guys. Combat leaders must be linear thinkers who know how to receive a mission and execute it. The Marines haven’t been kicking butt for 200 years by being creative. It’s the United States Marine Corps, Mabus, not Dreamworks Studios.

Mabus’ idea of diversity of thought is just more double speak horse dung and hay. The Marines are not going to take a Zogby poll to measure everyone’s diversity of thought before embarking on a combat operation. Well, what do you think Amber? Should we take that hill? How about you, Laura, would you like to man the machine gun? Hey, Bob? Should we fight this war? Good God.

The Marines at Iwo Jima didn’t win by their fabulous creativity and choreography. They won by combat power, which is maximized by having the toughest, roughest SOB’s in uniform that the Corps can find. It’s not maximized by recruiting from a Cocoa Beach Pilates class. It’s not maximized by four female Marine officers who figure out how to climb over an eight foot wall, something Mabus bragged about in his absurd OP-ED and something four 5th grade girls can manage.

Tell that to the Marines, Mabus. Tell them how creativity and diversity and an I Phone can win wars. And, shout it out loud, all the way to Arlington Cemetery, where 10,000 new graves are being prepared for the dead Marines you and your idiot policies are going to put there.

Tell that to the Marines who fought at Fallujah, Mabus. Tell them how creativity and diversity and some cool Droid apps can win wars.

Tell that to the Marines who fought at Ramadi and Nasiriyah.

Tell that to the Marines who destroyed the Iraqi Army at Khafji.

Tell that to the Marines who battled street by street in Hue and who were under constant siege at Khe Sanh.

Tell that to the Marines at the Frozen Chosin’, Mabus.

Tell that to the Marines at Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal and Tarawa and in Belleau Woods.

Tell them how war is so fundamentally different now that you don’t need the toughest and the boldest. You don’t need Dan Daly, Ira Hayes, Chesty Puller, France Silva, Lou Diamond and Merritt Edson.

Ray Mabus is nothing more than a political hack, a minion, a lackey, a drone, doing the Obama administration’s bidding. Last May, he stated that he wanted the Marines to be comprised of at least 25% percent women! Mabus was given the job for one reason and one reason only, to help destroy the Corps.

He is a shipwreck and a disgrace to the Navy and to the Marine Corps. But, he’s the perfect man for the job for the Obama administration.

Ray Mabus will never be in combat with the Marines he reigns over. He will never have to suffer the deadly consequences of his and others’ impotent decisions. Look the Marines in the eye, Mabus and tell them that the decisions you are making and the policies you support are good for the Marines Corps and the country’s national security. If you were in combat Mabus, who would you want next to you, a man who is six feet tall and 190 pounds or the high school prom queen who stands 5 feet nothing and weighs 90 pounds wringing wet. Who do you want to hit the beach with, Mabus? Who do you want to battle street by street with, Mabus? Who do you want on an ambush with you, Mabus? Who do you want carrying a heavy machine gun, Mabus?

Tell that to the Marines!

And, shout it all the way to Arlington National Cemetery.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnmccain; marines; raymabus; womenincombat
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1 posted on 11/07/2015 2:05:06 PM PST by pboyington
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To: pboyington

Semper Fidelis is the USMC motto. Since Mabus is not a Marine (good thing too, since he is unworthy), he sees no reason to be faithful.


2 posted on 11/07/2015 2:09:21 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: pboyington

Interesting that you only post material from a single source:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:pboyington/index?tab=articles


3 posted on 11/07/2015 2:14:28 PM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: pboyington

Study Finds Women Don’t Belong in Combat

New book shows women in combat suffer much more serious non-combat injuries, alleges IDF cover-up.

A new book sums up 13 years of research on female participation in IDF combat units and declares the feminist experiment in the Israeli military a failure. “Lochamot Betzahal” by Col. (res.) Raza Sagi, a former infantry regiment commander, points to high rates of serious injury among women serving in combat units, and to involvement of radical political groups behind the scenes of the campaign for combat service by women.

The book’s name is a Hebrew play on words that means both “female combat soldiers in the IDF” and “women fighting the IDF.”

“The study found that a particularly high percentage of women who served in combat roles suffered physical harm during their service and will suffer for the rest of their lives from ruptured discs, stress fractures in the pelvis, uterine prolapse and more,” Sagi told Maariv/NRG.

While men also suffer injuries during their military service, he said, studies prove that the female rate of injury is much higher and that the seriousness of the average injury is greater, with entire platoons sometimes unable to function because of the physical state of the female soldiers. The injuries referred to are incurred in training and routine deployment – not actual combat.

“The idea that there is no difference between men and women in the army is a ridiculous one that has been disproved in all of the world’s militaries,” Sagi insisted. “One cannot defeat evolution. In days in which a meaningful reduction of the defense budget is required – there is no doubt that the matter of placing women in combat roles requires reassessment.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/181604#.Vj56l7erTIU


4 posted on 11/07/2015 2:26:53 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Pollster1

It would be better if freaks like maubus were merely political hacks and but kissing toadies instead of being communist traitors that deserve a sentence of death.


5 posted on 11/07/2015 2:40:54 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: pboyington

Mavis is not about helping the marines. Down grading our military is the goal. Putting fags in close quarters with men is the goal. Making men dependent on women is the goal.


6 posted on 11/07/2015 3:00:49 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: humblegunner; pboyington; A.A. Cunningham

So far he posts pretty decent stuff. He’s not all combative, like A.A. Cunningham.


7 posted on 11/07/2015 3:15:21 PM PST by real saxophonist (YouTube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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To: Neoliberalnot

This not only endangers their lives in the field, it is betrayal of the highest order and strikes at the minds and hearts of our warriors. They are endangering them in their barracks with hopelessness. They are true communist infiltrators.


8 posted on 11/07/2015 3:21:42 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: pboyington

they don’;t want to hear that (and infact likely have orders to ignore it) and they don’t want to hear that gay rapes are way up since don’t ask don’t tell was lifted-


9 posted on 11/07/2015 3:43:49 PM PST by Bob434
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To: pboyington

Combat is not the place for social experiments.


10 posted on 11/07/2015 3:57:31 PM PST by LoneStar42 (Turn right.)
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To: Pollster1

At the top of our government, including most our General Officers, they have lost any sense of integrity. It’s all about their careers and their follow-on careers and devil take the long-suffering troops and all they have to accomplish at the risk of their lives.

Mabus is just another hack in a long series of hacks, civilian and in uniform.

No, women should not be in infantry combat units. Nor openly-serving homosexuals, nor any other distracting influence. Combat is demanding and dangerous enough.


11 posted on 11/07/2015 4:06:20 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: pboyington
Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus doesn't want to hear the truth. He doesn't want to know the facts.

For Ray Mabus, the tar pit of treason is warm and comfortable.

12 posted on 11/07/2015 4:12:56 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: pboyington

.....a Congress with balls could put a stop to this!


13 posted on 11/07/2015 4:36:14 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: pboyington

Key phrase in this article and 100% on target:

“Ray Mabus is nothing more than a political hack, a minion, a lackey, a drone, doing the Obama administration’s bidding. Last May, he stated that he wanted the Marines to be comprised of at least 25% percent women! Mabus was given the job for one reason and one reason only, to help destroy the Corps.”

From my experience of attending liberal cocktail parties in my younger days, I can assure you that left wingers are terrified of Marines; thus, the reason why Mabus is where he is and assigned the task of destroying the USMC.


14 posted on 11/07/2015 4:40:56 PM PST by sergeantdave
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15 posted on 11/07/2015 4:47:55 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: LoneStar42

“Combat is not the place for social experiments.”

This isn’t about social experiments. This is about political obedience.


16 posted on 11/07/2015 4:51:16 PM PST by CodeToad (Stupid kills, but not nearly enough!)
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To: pboyington; sergeantdave; humblegunner; Neoliberalnot; huldah1776; Chainmail

Marines have it right, because combat operations entail applying and enduring unimaginable brutality until victory. Therefore, only the highest physical abilities and most severe restrictions on human emotions and behaviors can foster the required high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion required. Human sexuality simply cannot intrude into this one dimensional world where only those displaying the greatest savagely can hope to win. Resorting to war for national defense entails the ultimate Olympics, so there is much less excuse for merging men and women into this environment than exists for the athletic competitions every four years.

Combat forms personnel into small, rigid, task oriented units. These people continuously face extraordinary stress punctuated by killing other humans. At the point of collision, men face environments requiring extraordinary physical capabilities and unbelievably demanding sacrificial, primitive and intimate relations. Such environments are inherently chaotic and brittle. They can be overcome only by a totalitarian leadership and narrow focus unimaginable for those who see any opportunity for social engineering.

Women not only do not belong at the pointy end of the spear, but should not be holding it to the extent the infantry must depend on their savagery. There is no reason to depart from the writings of Rudyard Kipling and George Orwell that can be synthesized into the quote, “Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

Why Marines, unlike Army and Navy, are so against women in combat
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2015/0911/Why-Marines-unlike-Army-and-Navy-are-so-against-women-in-combat?cmpid=editorpicks&google_editors_picks=true

General Martin E. Dempsey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Dempsey

Gen. Dempsey: If Women Can’t Meet Military Standard, Pentagon Will Ask ‘Does It Really Have to Be That High?’
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gen-dempsey-if-women-can-t-meet-military-standard-pentagon-will-ask-does-it-really-have

Coed Combat Units - A bad idea on all counts
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/coed-combat-units_697822.html

You’re In the New Army Now
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/01/youre-in-new-army-now.html

Women in combat
http://www.registerguard.com/web/opinion/29344922-47/women-combat-policy-military-serving.html.csp


17 posted on 11/07/2015 6:01:01 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

Good post, Mike. Thanks.

Boiled down to its most simple numbers:

Marines are 0311s. Women are not.


18 posted on 11/07/2015 6:30:41 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Thanks. My son is former Marine infantry. He was congraduated on his decision by a family friend who as a former Marine landed early the first day on Tarawa.


19 posted on 11/07/2015 6:51:41 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: pboyington

My son was a combat medic (4th ID) for two tours of Iraq. His guys loved him because he was and is a weight lifter. They protected him because they knew if they were hit he could pick them up and take care of them.

He is out now and works as a Registered Nurse.


20 posted on 11/07/2015 6:53:19 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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