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Ethanol loses its few friends: Even Dr. Ben Carson has backed away from subsidies and mandates
CFACT ^ | November 17, 2015 | Marita Noon

Posted on 11/21/2015 1:54:16 PM PST by george76

in a major policy reversal, Carson .. no longer supports subsidies for any industry, including U.S. ethanol producers

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Plainly irritated, the ethanol industry shot back immediately, saying it receives no government subsidies. But it neglected to mention a very important fact. Instead of subsidies, ethanol producers get something better: a mandate that orders refiners to blend ethanol into motor fuels which forces consumers to buy their product. A federally guaranteed market beats a subsidy every time.

The ethanol industry also benefits indirectly from agriculture programs that support farmers who grow corn for ethanol

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In attempt to push more ethanol into the motor fuel market, the Environmental Protection Agency readily admits it plans to drive growth in renewable fuels by providing appropriate incentives ...

the ethanol mandate is a do-gooder program that has gone horribly wrong .

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The ethanol mandate has been blamed for rising food prices-particularly for beef and poultry-because it has increased the cost of animal feed. Ethanol - blended fuel provides fewer miles per gallon because ethanol contains only two-thirds as much energy as gasoline, forcing motorists to fill up more often.

The mandate puts at risk millions of vehicles owned and operated by private citizens and fleets. Ethanol is corrosive. In tests, it has been proven to eat engine components, including seals and gaskets, causing expensive repairs.

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marine engine makers also caution boat owners to avoid E15. During winter storage, they suggest pouring a fuel stabilizer into built-in gas tanks to avoid problems. A survey of boat owners has shown ethanol-related repairs cost an average of about $1,000.

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By November 30, the administration must finalize the amount of biofuels that must be blended into motor fuels in the next couple of years. A pitched battle is developing on Capitol Hill.

(Excerpt) Read more at cfact.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Iowa; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: agitprop; energy; epa; ethanol; gasoline; mandates; maritanoon; methane; ntsa; opec; petrochemical; petroleum; subsidies
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1 posted on 11/21/2015 1:54:17 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Ethanol as a fuel for internal combustion engines was an idea put forth by Henry Ford, with the introduction of the Model-T Ford, the everyman vehicle that brought powered transportation to the family farm. Home brewed and distilled moonshine could serve as fuel, making the family farm still fully self-sufficient, much as growing hay and oats kept the horses fed.

And old T’s ran perfectly well on ethanol, or at least as perfectly well as they ever could.


2 posted on 11/21/2015 2:00:36 PM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: george76

in a major policy reversal, Carson .. no longer supports subsidies for any industry, including U.S. ethanol producers

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Say bye bye to Iowa Dr. Ben.


3 posted on 11/21/2015 2:01:33 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: george76

Mandates are subsidies. Paid every time a taxpayer stops to fill up.


4 posted on 11/21/2015 2:01:59 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: george76
No fear.

Trump says he backs ethanol at Gowrie plant

Trump in favor of subsidies for wind energy
5 posted on 11/21/2015 2:04:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: alloysteel

Remember how the Rats attacked Bob Dole and ADM over ethanol? Once they found out they could get farm belt votes with it they have really changed their tune. Now neither party will do the right thing and end it.


6 posted on 11/21/2015 2:04:31 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: george76

Ethanol is terrible for your car, truck or whatever. Corn was made for eating.


7 posted on 11/21/2015 2:05:11 PM PST by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: george76

I don’t think his first name is “Doctor”.
Let’s see that birth certificate. Did he get good grades in school?

Why does he defy the Constitution (article 1 section 9) which
states that we shall grant no titles yet he calls himself by one?

WHY!


8 posted on 11/21/2015 2:06:12 PM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: alloysteel

When Henry Ford designed the Model T it was designed to run on alchohol. You would buy your fuel at the pharmacy. Just after that the big oil boom started and they invented gasoline so Ford changed it to a gas engine.


9 posted on 11/21/2015 2:07:32 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Oldexpat
I believe that leaves us with only Ted Cruz and Rand Paul who have consistently opposed subsidies.

Fair warning, Breitbart

Ted Cruz Woos Iowa Ag Summit With Principled Anti-Ethanol Subsidy Stance
10 posted on 11/21/2015 2:11:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: george76

Ethanol has killed more small engines than cash for clunkers.

It makes zero economic sense.

I guess that is why the EPA likes it.


11 posted on 11/21/2015 2:11:10 PM PST by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: george76

The whole idea of making fuel from Corn etc is ridiculous, but few are able to come out and say it and expect to win Iowa.

Subsidies should absolutely end, in fact if they ended nobody would even make ethanol, with exception of specialty fuels imho.

The corn should be for food, you cant grow enough corn on the earth to make the amount of fuel that we need


12 posted on 11/21/2015 2:11:25 PM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST)
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To: george76

I all for ethanol, just not mixed with gasoline.


13 posted on 11/21/2015 2:12:26 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: george76

I’m all for ethanol, just not mixed with gasoline.


14 posted on 11/21/2015 2:13:39 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Graybeard58

He probably did it only after he knew he was not going to win Iowa.

Very few have had the courage to tell Iowans this. I have always cringed every time people I like have caved to Iowa and the ethanol lobby.

To be honest I only learned today that my guy Cruz has been on the right side of this.

Just have not followed that, am so used to people I like being afraid to state the truth on this, political suicide it`s always been called if you question it.


15 posted on 11/21/2015 2:18:03 PM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST)
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16 posted on 11/21/2015 2:22:13 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust

I think people are wildly overstating the importance of supporting ethanol subsidies among farmers. Its more important to the big ethanol producing companies than it is to the individual farmers.


17 posted on 11/21/2015 2:23:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: george76

Absolutely the worst crap you could put in a gas tank. The majority of politicians (in both our countries) must have voted for it.


18 posted on 11/21/2015 2:26:32 PM PST by Dartman (Canada 10/19/15 Santa Claus won.)
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To: cripplecreek

Tag line.


19 posted on 11/21/2015 2:41:41 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: alloysteel

Good. This crap has already destroyed the carburetors in my snow-blower, tiller and edger.


20 posted on 11/21/2015 2:46:40 PM PST by jimbug
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