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CIA: We Should Not Bomb Certain ISIS Targets Because it May Harm Environment
Townhall.com ^ | November 28, 2015 | Justin Holcomb

Posted on 11/28/2015 5:58:29 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Sadly, they do think they are.

That particular government agency went rogue over three decades ago, clasping hands with the State Department.

Because “they” all consider themselves so much smarter than everyone else at every level of government...no matter the law, or Constitutionally required checks and balances.

None of them operate under the rigid constraints of the DOD or UCMJ.

Congressional oversight is a joke.
So here we are.


41 posted on 11/28/2015 6:28:06 PM PST by sarasmom (TRUMP-Because there is no option to vote NONE OF THE ABOVE for the rest of them!)
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To: Art in Idaho

Twelve of the most DANGEROUS months since WW II lay ahead for the USA.


42 posted on 11/28/2015 6:28:38 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Dog; maggief

Speechless, ping.


43 posted on 11/28/2015 6:30:26 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Kaslin

Does the environment matter more than the victims who will be raped, enslaved, tortured, beheaded, drowned, crucified, burned, etc...?


44 posted on 11/28/2015 6:30:57 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Kaslin
Are they for real?

Unfortunately, YES. You need to make only one assumption and it will all clear. That assumption is that our Sunni Muslim President supports the goals of ISIS.

That single assumption explains the events in Iraq, in Syria, in Libya and even Egypt. The bad guys are winning. We are doing nothing significantly to stop them. It looks almost like we are trying to help them. Make that: It is obvious that we are trying to help them.

Obama will always take the side of the Muslims, particularly the Sunni Muslims. The payoff from the Saudis when he retires will be huge and probably tax-free.

45 posted on 11/28/2015 6:31:02 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Kaslin

Oil is organic, all natural, and aged longer than any fine wine.


46 posted on 11/28/2015 6:31:08 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SE Mom

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/01/ex-cia-boss-morell-to-face-heavy-questioning-on-benghazi-at-wednesday-hearing/

Mukasey also said Morell should be asked to explain his post-CIA career decisions which closely align him with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s aides. After retiring from the CIA, Morell joined Beacon Global Strategies as a counselor.Fox News was first to report on the connections between Beacon’s founding partners, Morell, Clinton and the House Intelligence Committee.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/24/revolving-door-ties-between-consultancy-govt-raise-questions-about-benghazi/

Morell, who also is a national security analyst for CBS News and has a book deal, joined the Beacon firm after retiring from the CIA last year. In doing so, he joined an organization already stacked with ex-government officials. Among them is Philippe Reines, whom the New York Times magazine recently described as Clinton’s “principal gatekeeper.” According to Beacon’s website, Reines traveled to more than 110 countries with the then-Secretary of State as part of her senior team.

Another employee, Jeremy Bash, was a former chief of staff to Leon Panetta at both the CIA and Defense Department. Andrew Shapiro was a Clinton policy adviser at the State Department whose portfolio included ridding Libya of shoulder-launched missiles called MANPADs.

And it includes Republican J. Michael Allen, who was a former majority staff director for the House Intelligence Committee, headed by Republican Rep. Mike Rogers.

http://beaconglobalstrategies.com/team/michael-j-morell/

MICHAEL J. MORELL
Counselor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beacon_Global_Strategies_LLC

Beacon Global Strategies LLC (BGS) is a Washington, DC-based strategic advisory firm founded by partners Michael Allen, Jeremy Bash, Philippe Reines, and Andrew Shapiro in 2013.[1][2] According to the firm’s website, Beacon Global Strategies specializes in matters of international policy, foreign affairs, national defense, cyber, intelligence, and homeland security.[3]

About BGS[edit]

A September 2013 article in Defense News, describes Beacon Global Strategies as unique for a Washington consulting firm because of its partners’ intent to eventually return to government. The article noted that “Part of the confidence in future public service may stem from a combination of significant titles and relative youth, paired with the fact that most of the founders of the firm have ties to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who may be a presidential favorite heading into the 2016 election if she decides to run.”[1]

A September 2013 Washington Post profile of Beacon Global Strategies highlighted the firm’s bipartisan make up: “‘We want to build bipartisan support for solutions to complex national security problems,’ Bash said, noting that cooperation between Democrats and Republicans on these issues ‘has been lacking in recent years.’”[4]
BGS Leadership[edit]

Before founding Beacon Global Strategies, the four partners served in a variety of government positions:

Michael Allen served as Majority Staff Director of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), under Chairman Mike Rogers (R-MI) from 2011-2013.[5] He previously served in the George W. Bush White House.[6] Allen is the author of “Blinking Red: Crisis and Compromise in American Intelligence after 9/11” (Potomac Books Inc. September 2013).[7]

Jeremy Bash was the only Obama Administration official to have served as Chief of Staff in two national security departments or agencies: first as Chief of Staff to the Director of the CIA (2009-2011) and most recently as Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Defense (2011-2013).[8][9] Philippe Reines is a long-time Senior Advisor to former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.
From 2009-2013, Reines served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Strategic Communications and Senior Communications Advisor.[10] Reines served from 2002-2009 as Senior Advisor & Press Secretary for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.[11]

Andrew Shapiro is the former and longest serving Senate confirmed United States Assistant Secretary of State for Political-Military Affairs (2009-2013).[12] During the presidential transition of Barack Obama, Shapiro was a member of the Obama-Biden Department of Defense Agency Review Team, and during the 2008 presidential election, a member of Hillary Clinton’s campaign, advising on foreign affairs.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130903/DEFREG02/309030006

WASHINGTON — Consulting groups are routinely a place where former public servants are put out to pasture, a last stop to conclude careers built on senior government positions. But a group of former senior officials is building a new firm, Beacon Global Strategies, while retaining an additional goal.

They all want to go back into government.

Part of the confidence in future public service may stem from a combination of significant titles and relative youth, paired with the fact that most of the founders of the firm have ties to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who may be a presidential favorite heading into the 2016 election if she decides to run.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/03/former-hillary-clinton-aides-form-bipartisan-consulting-firm/


47 posted on 11/28/2015 6:42:30 PM PST by maggief
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To: EvilCapitalist

Been saying for well over a year that Obama is working for ISIS. At first, I thought it was being done inadvertently through incompetence but you can’t get the benefit of doubt when there IS no doubt.


48 posted on 11/28/2015 6:43:53 PM PST by stormhill
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To: Kaslin
Protecting the well heads and nearby pipeline infrastructure makes sense.

A-10s 24/7 on the roads connecting major cities would do the job.

49 posted on 11/28/2015 6:45:16 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Kaslin

Brennan bump


50 posted on 11/28/2015 6:45:56 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: Kaslin

A likely story. They just don’t want to interfere with ISIS (and bolix up Erdogan’s little graft enterprise).


51 posted on 11/28/2015 6:46:06 PM PST by BusterBear (/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"There are no warriors left in leadership positions." President Trump/Cruz will have to totally re-cut the senior military commanders, and RIF all that are there today. We need to have Nuremberg Trials for all of them to punish them for their acts of treason! Wouldn't bother me at all if we had a few executions, and all of them need to be cut loose penniless!
52 posted on 11/28/2015 6:47:03 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Kaslin

After Obama is out of office, everyone who has been on the Executive Schedule (all five levels!) between January 21, 2009 and January 19, 2016 needs to be sent to work in a rock quarry.


53 posted on 11/28/2015 6:47:07 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Paladin2

Let Turkey try a “Berlin Airlift”.


54 posted on 11/28/2015 6:47:20 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: sarasmom

It is nearly unbelievable the amount of oil & gas incidents in WWII. Merchant Marine and other ships hauling fuels, oils that went down. Then there are fixed tank farms, then supply trucks. Spill a fraction of this amount today and the smartest people in the world will tell you the end of the world is near. yet somehow we lived thru WWII.


55 posted on 11/28/2015 6:47:48 PM PST by umgud
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To: stormhill

Hussein is a Bitter Clinger to Islam.


56 posted on 11/28/2015 6:47:59 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Kaslin

Protecting assets.


57 posted on 11/28/2015 6:58:59 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Kaslin

1944: We cannot bomb Ploesti—think of the environment!!! /puke


58 posted on 11/28/2015 7:02:25 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Kaslin
Col. Warren's Brief [Press Availability] is frightening. A few gems:

1. "Operation Inherent Resolve" - Who names these things? Who?

2. "ISIL" - Ok, no one calls it ISIL except the White Hut. DAESH if you want, but ISIL, buddy, er, Colonel, Really.

3. Bear with me, this one is great - "On November 15th, the new Syrian forces, trained by the coalition, conducted a mortar raid on an ISIL stronghold in the tri-border area near Al Tam. This was the first operation of its kind in Southern Syria, five buildings and a weapons cash were destroyed." - Oh that is going to drive ISIS out - a mortar raid - Really!? ISIS is barely phased by attacks by A-10s and SU-24s, and you are trumpeting the first mortar raid of its kind.

4. "We continue our disruption operations in the Tigris River Valley, which includes Baiji, Mosul and Hawaija. We've conducted 105 airstrikes since October 15." - 105 airstrikes and ISIS[L] seems to be doing just fine. Maybe you should stick with mortar raids.

5. This "effort" we call "Operation Tidal Wave II." Who names these things? Who?

6. "Finally, along the Euphrates River Valley, which includes Ramadi, Fallujah, and Abu Hayat, we've conducted over 190 airstrikes since October 15."

7. "As indigenous friendly forces maneuver against our enemy, it causes our enemy to move. The enemy has to react, and as soon as the enemy reacts, we kill them from the air." - What indigenous friendly forces? You mean the one's who just launched their very first mortar raid?

8. Oh here we have the indigenous friendly forces. "The Syrian democratic forces liberated that town [Al Hawl]" - I have been making a joke about we don't support ISIS; we don't support Asad; we support the forces for freedom and democracy, but I meant it as a sarcastic joke. I had no idea [well in my more cynical moments I did, but I thought I was just being pejorative] that that was the heart of our so-called strategy.

9. "We haven't done the math on these 116 trucks [All the satellite and drone intelligence and you can't count how much oil is being moved - in my day a grade school kid could do that]. What we have done the math on is Operation Tidal Wave, writ large .. we believe that the oil facilities inside of Operation Tidal Wave counts for about two-thirds of the revenue that ISIL makes by selling oil."

10. "So by -- by destroying this chain -- because remember, you can't look at it the trucks as -- the trucks are just one link in the chain. There's trucks, there's wellheads, there's pumps, there's separators, there's collection points. So it's -- it's a chain and the trucks are kind of at one end of the -- wellhead is at the ground. You know, that's where the oil comes out of the ground, that's the step one in the chain. And the truck, that's the last step in the chain - No the penultimate step in the chain is delivering the oil to Turkey. The ultimate step is payment transferred by some corrupt son of a Turkish premier to some terrorist outfit routed through some set of banks, all of which appear to be still standing. And it really isn't we, anyway. It was our Russian friends, the same guys we just stabbed in the back for disrupting the cash flow to Erdigan's son [I want to know - is Bilal a supporter of freedom and democracy too].

But there you have our strategy in a nutshell - hundreds of airstrikes to "disrupt" the enemy, and support for the forces of democracy who have actually conducted their very first mortar raid in this fine example of maneuver warfare where we induce the enemy to move and then kill him.

As Trump has said, where is Patton or MacArthur when you need them. Oh, we fired them already because they used some bad words. And as near as I can tell it is the French and the Russians who are the one's "making the other SOB die for his country".

59 posted on 11/28/2015 7:02:30 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin

We know that there is plenty of oil in the US and Canada, and we also know that oil naturally replenishes itself through the miracles of the LORD. Who gives two s***s about oil which is more likely to be used by terrorists? Why would we want the Iraqi environment to be stable, when its destruction and the consequential ruination of Iraqi infrastructure would be one of the best means of deterrence against ISIS and the other Muslims in the area?


60 posted on 11/28/2015 7:08:32 PM PST by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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