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Iowa conservative kingmaker endorses Ted Cruz (Bob Vander Plaats)
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/10/15 | Ryan Lovelace

Posted on 12/10/2015 9:35:35 AM PST by Isara

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To: editor-surveyor; Finny; sitetest; Isara

I agree; that was an excellent post.

I can’t and won’t pretend to ignore Trump’s entire life before he ran for president-—shoot, or even the things he says NOW that reveal his core liberalism.


61 posted on 12/11/2015 5:50:00 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Finny

Trump is a liberal. Those who support him either don’t care or have been fooled by his campaign rhetoric. He will never get my vote.


62 posted on 12/11/2015 5:59:17 PM PST by South40 (Ted Cruz = the only conservative in the race)
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To: Cold Heat

You got nothin’ on me. Some arrogant asshole basically called me a MOSLEM!! Because I am adamantly opposed to trump.


63 posted on 12/11/2015 6:06:07 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

“Some Human’s ain’t Human...” Song by John Prine

Yeah.......they are pretty nasty, and getting worse...might be about time for my election season hiatus...

It’s happened before. Usually ends in a purge.


64 posted on 12/11/2015 6:20:00 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

My wife likes John Prine. In my youth I actually took her to two of his concerts. I understand.


65 posted on 12/11/2015 6:30:57 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Cold Heat
I see what you mean, yes, and you may be right. I have faith, perhaps unfounded, that people are smart enough to wake up in time. But it has to be soon.

And even at that, Trump may well claim that he was "treated unfairly" and attempt to run Third Party. His signing of that stupid pledge was only a publicity sham -- he reneged on it less than three months later, saying that he said at the time "if they treat me fairly," and when I went back and read stories covering the signing event, there was ZIP ZERO NADA mention anywhere of Trump saying anything of the kind when he signed the thing.

66 posted on 12/11/2015 6:45:04 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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Yeah, that third party threat (original) and now the renewal third party II, is really telling if you can use that part of the brain that can think critically without vocalizing it.

Already, there have been numerous political election errors the worst of which was Obama the Arrogant, Pope Francis (Not so Pius) and maybe a third named Donald the Contractor in Chief.

There was the mess in Venezuela, the mess in Argentina, the mess in Russia....

All 100% BS elections based not on intelligent voting, but on group think or social madness, you pick the term.


67 posted on 12/11/2015 6:52:27 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
Getting back to Rush -- I don't know because I stopped listening to him about the time of Romney, and even then I'd cut back listening (once upon a time I formed my day around catching his show). Why? I guess because he became too much the entertainer (and that's all he says he is), and not enough the kindred political spirit. He'd go off on tangents that bored or annoyed me, and was often plain wrong but pig-headed about little things, non-political things, personal things. As if I cared about his wedding with whats-her-name. Call me cold -- oh well.

When FOX ran the story about him coming as close to endorsing Cruz as it gets as "all about Trump," in a most obvious fashion, why didn't Rush point it out for the MSM bias it was?

Or did he, I don't know because I don't listen, so ...

Look, Romney was the last straw for me. I lost respect for every person who told me I should vote for Romney. My conservative hero would have made it clear in 2012 that the Republican candidate was in fact a functional Democrat, that it was all a charade. My personal solution to that, as we have a duty to vote if we are informed, was to vote for a plurality (see my tagline). Two pluralities hurt Clinton greatly. When voting for making sure whatever leftist wins gets in with a majority opposed is the best choice -- take it. And I did and am glad to this day that Romney lost.

Now, we are faced with the frightening prospect of Republicans nominating a self-celebritized 3rd-tier billionaire CEO who exaggerates his worth (see Forbes article of June 16, 2015, "Trump Exaggerating His Net Worth In Presidential Bid," can't link it because of Forbes' website) and who for 26 years leaned way left moderate. In 2008, he was a Democrat publicly endorsing McCain and at the same time, heaping warm, affectionate praise on Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Trump re-discovered the Republican party and switched, right about the time it became the party of McCain and Romney, two of the worst candidates imaginable. And now that loser Trump is our guy?

Rush could be talking about this. It would be perfectly within his realm and listener interest. Not to mention the right thing to do by American conservatism and liberty.

I wish he'd be a hero and do what was right. Instead, he's being an entertainer who ... well, every time I turn the radio dial and listen for a bit ... he seems to be talking about emotional, shallow things, trend, pop culture, as if those things had anything to do with conservative principles in the White House.

68 posted on 12/12/2015 3:38:05 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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As to rush and FOX.

FOX edited the tape so that the comments he made about Cruz did not air at the time, but I think they played the entire tape a day later. Rush did not think it was intentional. And yes the media is generally much more interested in Trump.

As to Romney.

The way I see it, and saw it, was that as the republican nominee, he was pragmatically better then another term of Obama and we had a opportunity to make Obama a one term-er.

Since that did not occur, things have now changed. pragmatism has gone out the window. IMO, there will be no more pragmatism.

The 2012 loss was big...It allowed Obama to explode like a pustule, spreading viral biologics everywhere. It's probably too late to save the ship. Trump is just another northeastern rino, but Cruz's depth of knowledge and drive might be able to do a number of repairs, like the supreme court, and the roll back of executive branch power by forcing congress to take it back.

I am not at all sure he can fix much of it, but he can get her pointed back in the right direction, much as Reagan did.

IMO, if Trump wins it, I don't see anything getting repaired. He will exacerbate the unbalance power structure we have now. He will put the last nail in the coffin at SCOTUS with crap picks.

The only good thing he might or might not do, is get immigration back into some sort of control, but I really don't know if he can.

If the next president gets 8 years, chances are I won't get to see the entire run. I am surprised I am still here...but I have one more vote in me, and there will be no pragmatism in my choice. No “who can win” thinking, no “who can win independents” thinking, and in fact I already pay absolutely no attention to polling.

There is only one...

69 posted on 12/12/2015 9:08:58 PM PST by Cold Heat
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BTW Finny, Rush has always refrained from getting into a primary until it’s down to 3 or fewer candidates..

Far as I know, he will , as a conservative, vote for Cruz, as will Hannity and some of the others. but don’t expect them to get directly involved..

With rush, he has the subtlety and presence to endorse without endorsing...

I do expect he will do that at a later date..


70 posted on 12/12/2015 9:16:44 PM PST by Cold Heat
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