Posted on 01/05/2016 7:50:07 AM PST by Gandalf the Mauve
#yallqaeda is pretty clever...
In taking back our country, there will eventually no "straddling of the fence". Each of us will be forced to pick one side or the other, even if we aren't fully satisfied with our side. In the end, it will patriot Americans against liberal subversives who wish to bring down the country and shred the Constitution.
Not a bad little documentary, with background leading up to the current incident, linked below:
Another one I saw was #yokelharam.
Today we do have representatives in Congress.
That tells us:
(a) If we were all more cautious with our votes, we might have a very different government.
But also:
(b) Many of our fellow citizens who are engaged in politics have very different opinions about taxes and the role of government than you or I do.
It is more about cultivating a cultural attitude toward freedom than it is about seizing a wildlife refuge building.
The lukewarm reception that the Bundys have gotten here - even from former allies that supported them in Bunkerville - shows that they have a made a misstep.
The Bundys are ungrateful children who finance businesses with federal loans, use federal land without paying a cent for decades, and then claim that the federal government has no authority.
I'm an American.
Unlike the Bundys, I don't take federal handouts or "borrow" federal property.
But I do acknowledge that the federal government has legal authority under the Constitution.
What about those of us who are neither thieves nor beggars?
I suggest you stay out of flyover country.
Anything to avoid answering the question, I see.
And irrelevant, since my work takes me to TX, OK and CO for months each year.
People in so-called "flyover country" are less likely, in my experience, to be deadbeats or crackpots like the Bundys than people on the coasts are.
Yeah, and besides giving each other the benefit of doubt, we usually don't go around calling for murdering someone either.
That seems to be a characteristic of liberal coasties:
Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown...
Well of course I don’t want them put to death. I just wish we had better representatives in the conservative sector of our party. We latch on to these really outrageous types of people like Kim and these guys. Why can’t normal people be our representatives? We always end up looking like silly uninspired group because of it. That’s really it. We should have people the population can look up to. Does anyone think these folks are being modeled after? Are fathers telling their sons that he hopes that the son turns out like these guys? Are Mothers telling their daughters that they hope they turn out to be like Kim Davis? I doubt it.
So you actually think I'm calling for the Bundy clowns to be killed?
May they all live to be 110, as far as I'm concerned.
But I do not buy into their salespitch.
I’m sorry, but if ANYONE thinks what we have today is ANY form of ‘representation’, I got a bridge to sell ya. If anyone thinks their vote will make a difference in the same, I have some beachfront property in AZ. (I am anxiously awaiting to eat crow if/when Trump/Cruz are elected, but I’m not holding my breath).
Case in point: The latest budget bill. It just HAD to be passed, warts and all. Why? Well, so ‘we’ could sell oil, so ‘we’ could XYZ. WE turns out to be K/Wall St., big $$ donators...the tit-for-tat dirty politics we grew up learning about (Boss Tweed/carpetbaggers/etc.)
Know what it DOESN’T do? NOTHING, OK, 99.9%, authorized by the Constitution. Exec amnesty? funded. PP? funded. Import-Export bank? brought back from the DEA....and funded.
No. We have Fascism. Regardless of what our ‘reps’ may do, they are set FOR LIFE on the backs of the ‘represented’.
It matters NOT what our fellow citizens may want/wish (sh!t in one hand, wish in the other); we supposedly have a Constitution to follow. Public demand be DAMNED.
IMO, the only thing the Bundy sentiment has shown is the big govt has won, with the help of MSM spin and once Free men more interested in Monday Night Football to care about the chains that have been placed than the stench from the seats of power.
/rant off
In a republic, there is a constitution which provides a legal foundation for governing - and governing a free people under a republican constitution requires negotiation and compromise.
This means that no candidate, no law, no court ruling, and no enforcement action will be liked by everyone.
Conservatives are not 100% of the electorate or even 51% of the electorate.
We will never get everything we want, and we have to negotiate aggressively for everything we get.
Right now the GOP is doing a terrible job, and the Democrats are doing their best to dismantle the Constitution.
But this is not fascism - yet.
You left out a VERY important part:
The Constitution, which you reference, is not only a legal foundation, it is a contract between We the People for what the govt CAN and CANNOT do. It is the authority by which laws are created, debated, passed and enforced.
‘Laws’ were passed that say all shall be taxed to give to the ‘poor’ (aka welfare). Though deemed ‘legal’ and ‘Constitutional’, it flies in the face of A1S8 (no legal authority...but let’s say it does based on the ‘Common Welfare’); but also the 5th (Takings) and the 13th (economic slavery, but slavery none the less).
Though, not all laws/rulings/etc. will be liked by all (true), those same MUST follow the rules set out by the Constitution...else, they are null and void (OK, SHOULD be).
That is, IF we were still a Constitutional Republic.
Pic on the left is not the Bundys.
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