So it is — with a big red seal!
Posted on 01/06/2016 3:34:41 PM PST by Isara
So it is — with a big red seal!
You do realize that in that "timeline thing", the author does not provide ANY documentation for the claims he is making, right? No links to document other than Ted's birth certificate (which no one was disputing), no links to anything that would support the claim.
No one is questioning if he is a U.S. citizen. The issue appears to be naturalized or natural born. Too much for me to wade through but someone does need to address this stuff BEFORE the election.
It would be bad news if we put all our eggs in that basket and got blindsided.
Only if he was studying Canadian law...
It’s really up to the Supreme Court, but then they’ve abdicated on their responsibilities in this area.
OK, Congress does not by itself have the power to change the Constitution. Sheeesh.
The birth certificate merely shows when and where he was born, and who his parents are. It says nothing about citizenship.
Why would she have done that? Considering they were headed back to Houston, anyway, after the Alberta gig concluded.
does natural born also include birth on American soil?
Different topic altogether. A child born in the US is automatically a citizen, due to the 14th (unless the parents enjoy diplomatic immunity to US jurisdiction). Parents' nationality does not enter in.
Depends on how it’s interpreted. Point being Congress by itself can’t change it either way.
It has been said that Ted’s mother relinquished her American citizenship when she applied for Canadian citizenship while working in Canada.Once you relinquish your American citizenship you cannot get it back.
No passport was required until recently between America and Canada and the parents lived not far from the border. Crossing back and forth would have been very easy.
Knowing how the bureaucracy works where one habnd doesn’t know what the other hand is doing, she could have presented herself as still an American citizen. How are we to know? Multiple requests under the Freedom of information Act for the certificates of birth and citizenship in both Canada and the US have been blocked. Cruz has to give his permission for the records to be revealed. WHY does he refuse? What does he have to hide?
They lived there 8 years. Maybe they intended to stay. The Dad took Canadian citizenship, didn’t he?
You like to call people names. How about Cruz opens his SEALED files to Freedom of information Act filings for both Canada and the US instead of blocking them? Why hide the FACTS when he aspires to the presidency? Obama sealed his files! Why has Cruz done the same?
Thanks. It was just something I had come across earlier and didn’t know the answer to.
Since it clearly states his birth place, it never came up that it would make him a citizen of Canada? Nevermind, I really couldn’t care less about trying to undo the past, I’m focused on the future.
But have you wagered on it yet?
Thanks for your comment, it gives more clarity to what I stumbled upon earlier. Oh the tangled web we weave...
Nobody said they did. But the Constitution does not define "natural born citizen". And the first Congress, made up of most of the same men who wrote of the Constitution, included children of citizens that were born outside of the US as "natural born citizens". Now, Occam's Razor: Is it more likely that these founders were trying to CHANGE the Constitution (that they had just passed and already amended according to the procedures laid out in the Constitution) by including that clause; or is it more likely that they were CLARIFYING that these children fell under the definition of that term that they used in the Constitution.
To try to claim that they were trying to modify the Constitution via statute requires a complete suspension of logic and reason - something we are seeing a lot of on this forum lately.
It says nothing about citizenship.
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And neither did I say it did.
That makes so much sense! Honestly, the disdain for anyone who doesn’t kiss the behind of Cruz is something to behold, or ignore.
The list is here. Basically, the US and Canada and most or all of Latin America.
Then what “clue” do you think the BC should have given him? That he was born in Canada?
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