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Exclusive: 1974 Canadian Electors’ List Named Ted Cruz’s Parents
Breitbart.com ^ | Jan. 8 2016 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 01/08/2016 6:00:09 PM PST by FR_addict

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To: Toddsterpatriot

No, Obama negated it.

Not much on reading comprehension, are you?


21 posted on 01/08/2016 6:26:42 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
No, Obama negated it.

What do you feel Obama negated?

Not much on reading comprehension, are you?

I read your claim and asked you for proof.

Not big on proof, are you?

22 posted on 01/08/2016 6:28:38 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: MuttTheHoople
This "truther" stuff is just bull$hit.

Actually it's not. We've now been relegated to once again throwing the Constitution out the window to keep a commie bitch out of office.

That's how they roll, hold on for the ride.

23 posted on 01/08/2016 6:29:36 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rovenstinez

That’s my fear, the courts. The libs will judge shop until they find one willing to legislate from the bench to stop Cruz.

I pray there’s another way to put this to rest other than the courts.


24 posted on 01/08/2016 6:32:09 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You're trying to start a fight, I said I would gladly vote for Cruz. I belive a NBC is of jus soli and jus sanguinis ergo Cruz is not eligible.

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168.

There is you proof.

25 posted on 01/08/2016 6:35:21 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Mollypitcher1

“Frankly, I believe neither Cruz nor Rubio are eligible under the constitution. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 clearly states that a NBC is born of two American parents on American soil.”

This is Article 2, Section I, Clause 5. NOWHERE does it say that an NBC is ONLY born of 2 American Parents on American soil. You made that sh*t up. Now apologize and admit you’re wrong or that you intentionally lied.

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”


26 posted on 01/08/2016 6:35:51 PM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: big'ol_freeper
Troll

Wow! I bet you worked all night on that one. Always good when you can bring something intelligent to the conversation.
27 posted on 01/08/2016 6:36:02 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Las Vegas Ron
These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners

Cruz is a US citizen. Do you agree?

28 posted on 01/08/2016 6:37:28 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Cruz is a US citizen. Do you agree?

Yes, I believe he is a citizen.

But if you care to study, he is not a Natural Born Citizen:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2840767/posts

29 posted on 01/08/2016 6:40:50 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Mollypitcher1

“Her birth certificate is no proof that she did not relinquish her citizenship and take that of her husband, Canadian.”

It takes a lot of renounce U S citizenship. The paperwork to do so gets filed with the US Government.


30 posted on 01/08/2016 6:41:09 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Founder historian, David Ramsay, who in his A Dissertation on the Manners of Acquiring the Character and Privileges of a Citizen (1789) told us that after July 4, 1776, birthright citizenship was preserved only for a child born to U.S. citizens, NOTE: Citizens which means BOTH parents are citizens.

(4) Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857) (Justice Daniels concurring cited Vattel and The Law of Nations and provided his definition of natural born citizens and took out of Vattel’s definition the reference to “fathers” and “father” and replaced it with “parents” and “person,” respectively, and stated: “’The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.’ Again: ‘I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . .

To those wondering about Trump’s case, he IS a Natural born Citizen. Of course only his mother was a naturalized citizen and that was well before his birth.(7) Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939) (confirmed that a child born in the United States to a naturalized U.S. citizen father and naturalized citizen mother, the mother being derivatively
naturalized by marrying a U.S. citizen, was a “natural born Citizen.”

There are several other Supreme court Cases besides those listed above, all upholding Vattel’s description of Natural Born Citizen which is VERY different from Citizen.


31 posted on 01/08/2016 6:42:01 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: MuttTheHoople
This "truther" stuff is just bull$hit.

Ya, and so is the Constitution of United States of America, right?
32 posted on 01/08/2016 6:42:28 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Mr Rogers

I am simply citing it as one of the possibilities. there has to be some reaon why the records are sealed.


33 posted on 01/08/2016 6:43:05 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Yes, I believe he is a citizen.

Excellent! When was his naturalization ceremony?

34 posted on 01/08/2016 6:43:31 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: FR_addict

Did she vote, or was she just on a list of potential voters?

As far as we know she wasn’t in Canada long enough to become a citizen, so she wouldn’t have been able to vote.

The more this goes along the more I get the feeling some folks got a BIG problem with a Presidential candidate being born on foreign soil, even if that candidate is technically a natural born citizen.

For the record I think Cruz is an American and eligible for the office of POTUS.


35 posted on 01/08/2016 6:43:36 PM PST by SteveSCH
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Excellent! When was his naturalization ceremony?

What kind of game are you attempting to play?

36 posted on 01/08/2016 6:44:35 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: FR_addict

SIGH

What nationality did the mother of Ted Cruz hold the day of his birth ???

What she did after that is irrelevant...


37 posted on 01/08/2016 6:45:25 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Mollypitcher1
Founder historian, David Ramsay, who in his A Dissertation on the Manners of Acquiring the Character and Privileges of a Citizen (1789) told us that after July 4, 1776, birthright citizenship was preserved only for a child born to U.S. citizens, NOTE: Citizens which means BOTH parents are citizens.

Thanks. Now where does the Constitution mention parents, as you first claimed?

38 posted on 01/08/2016 6:45:32 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
What kind of game are you attempting to play?

You said he was a citizen, just not natural born.

Is there a third way to become a citizen?

39 posted on 01/08/2016 6:46:35 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Mollypitcher1

“There are several other Supreme court Cases besides those listed above, all upholding Vattel’s description of Natural Born Citizen...”

Try citing ONE.


40 posted on 01/08/2016 6:47:43 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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