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Exclusive: 1974 Canadian Electors’ List Named Ted Cruz’s Parents
Breitbart.com ^ | Jan. 8 2016 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 01/08/2016 6:00:09 PM PST by FR_addict

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To: Las Vegas Ron

“You ain’t shit.”

Good to see your level of argument has not improved.


61 posted on 01/08/2016 7:11:21 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: SteveSCH

I think he should produce his CRBA.

A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.


62 posted on 01/08/2016 7:12:01 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: Mr Rogers
When she was able to re-enter and resume life as a US citizen, and her son got a passport?

If Cruz is a NBC, why would he need a pass port?

I's so fun to watch your pretzel logic.

And I support Cruz btw.

63 posted on 01/08/2016 7:12:38 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SteveSCH

Have you done any research? I doubt it.


64 posted on 01/08/2016 7:13:05 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mr Rogers
Good to see your level of argument has not improved.

Why thank you, thank you Mr Wong Kim Ark.

So why would Cruz need a passport if he is a citizen, ahem, NBC?

65 posted on 01/08/2016 7:14:40 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Mollypitcher1

“VATTEL was the source and reason for the wording.”

Except Vattel does not use the term “natural born citizen”, nor did anyone translate it (incorrectly) that way until 10 years AFTER the US Constitution.

We also know the legislatures used “natural born citizen” and “natural born subject” interchangeably at the time of the Constitution, and NBS had an established legal meaning. SO why do you insist it came from someone who did not write about “natural born citizens”?


66 posted on 01/08/2016 7:14:42 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“If Cruz is a NBC, why would he need a pass port?”

Don’t travel abroad, much, do ya Ron...


67 posted on 01/08/2016 7:15:47 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mr Rogers

So who is to say she did, or she didn’t until the papers are unsealed?
Actually, both parents have to be Citizens of the US at the time of the child’s birth. Obviously that was not the case.


68 posted on 01/08/2016 7:17:05 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mr Rogers
Why are y'all so upset at the idea of the most conservative candidate in a generation getting the nomination?

Because I don't believe he is. I don't believe a real conservative would personally take the lead to push TPA through the Congress. I don't believe a conservative would vote to give obumer pre-aproval to make any deal he wanted with Iran with automatic full Congressional support. I don't believe a conservative would want to flood the country with foreign workers when over 25% of working age Americans are unemployed. That's why.
69 posted on 01/08/2016 7:17:43 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Mollypitcher1

“Actually, both parents have to be Citizens of the US at the time of the child’s birth.”

No. Another false statement.


70 posted on 01/08/2016 7:18:42 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Electors’ List Named Ted Cruz’s Parents, MuttTheHoople wrote:
With nobody in power giving a crap where obama was born, I don’t see any trouble with Ted Cruz.
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So in your opinion, two wrongs make a right?

You either believe in the constitution or you don’t. just that simple.


71 posted on 01/08/2016 7:19:05 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Mollypitcher1; JoSixChip

So, you’re saying he’s not eligible to be president? Tell them:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/01/the_cruz_natural_born_citizen_fake_controversy.html

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/an-unnaturally-born-non-controversy

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429356/ted-cruz-natural-born-citizen

http://battleborndesign.com/2016/01/07/cruz-vs-obama-eligible/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/01/07/why-ted-cruz-is-a-natural-born-citizen/

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/yes-ted-cruz-can-be-president


72 posted on 01/08/2016 7:19:25 PM PST by pookie18 (10 months until the general election...)
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To: JoSixChip

So...just who is more conservative? Donald “Hillary would be a great president” Trump?


73 posted on 01/08/2016 7:19:38 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mollypitcher1

There is nothing in the Constitution or any statute that requires two citizen parents for a child to be a natural born citizen.


74 posted on 01/08/2016 7:22:20 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: SteveSCH

Cruz is NOT a natural born citizen and is therefore not eligible and neither is Rubio....according to the Constitution.


75 posted on 01/08/2016 7:23:17 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Is there any doubt that a child born of citizen mother and father on the soil of their country a natural being a natural born citizen?”

Based on the Minor Case and Congressional Statutes, no. But that doesn’t eliminate other categories that would qualify as well.

“What do you think the Founding Fathers meant with that in mind?”

To keep Parliament and the rest of Europe’s political turmoil out of the new country’s top leadership so that the new American culture could be developed and assimiliated. However, what I find puzzling is the 14 year residency requirement, which seems way too low, but appears the Founders did not frown upon American citizens living abroad.

Think of this. If 2 American Citizens had a child in Virginia on American soil in 1800 and decided to move to France immediately after the child’s birth without renouncing their US Citizenship, and the child was raised their entire life in France and the culture and spoke fluent French, but in 1821 they decide to leave France to come back to America (Louisiana) where the 21 year old gets a job, eventually runs for Congress, takes a position in the Jackson Administration and then decide to run for President in 1836 after meeting the 14 year residency requirement, would you have a problem with this? If the child is more inclined to French customs and courtesies (as evidenced by moving to LA) do you think loyalty to the US might be an issue even though they meet all the requirements?


76 posted on 01/08/2016 7:24:45 PM PST by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: Mr Rogers
So...just who is more conservative? Donald “Hillary would be a great president” Trump?

Who said that? What I and others have said is that Trump is not owned by big money donors. Trump has a history of getting big things done. Trump is not dishonest and, as far as I can tell, never said one thing and done another. And the things that Trump says he wants to get done are exactly the things I have been screaming about for decades. The fact that makes the msm, GOPe and people like you heads explode is just gravy.
77 posted on 01/08/2016 7:25:16 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: FR_addict

Cruz was a Citizen of the United States of America at birth.

His Mother was a United States Citizen when her Son was born, end of story.

You are either a Citizen at Birth or you are a Naturalized Citizen. Cruz was not Naturalized.

Citizen at Birth = Natural Born Citizen. There is no Constitutional language that says otherwise.


78 posted on 01/08/2016 7:25:22 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, unable to call a Spade a Spade...)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Cite the definition of NBC provided in the US Constitution.

This one comes close:

“Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization. This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides that “no person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,” and that Congress shall have power “to establish a uniform rule of naturalization.” Thus new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization.”

Two classes of citizens: those added by naturalization, and those added by birth.


79 posted on 01/08/2016 7:26:38 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: JoSixChip

“The fact that makes the msm, GOPe and people like you heads explode is just gravy.”

I would vote for Trump if he wins the nomination. But someone who liked Obama and Hillary in 2009 is NOT much of a conservative. That, or he is stupid - which he is not.


80 posted on 01/08/2016 7:28:09 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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