Posted on 01/21/2016 5:32:19 AM PST by BraveMan
Indeed, heroine should be made as cheap and as close to free as possible. There is nothing that would do more damage to drug cartels and to domestic pushers and than cheap drugs such as heroin. If we are really concerned about the innocent victims of drug crime, if we understand that we are pushing victimhood away from the user onto the innocent bystander with our policy of criminalization, you might have safer streets and fewer drug pushers.
A far higher percentage die if they don’t get free emergency room treatment.
Greenfield, WI to offer treatment instead of incarceration for heroin addicts. (and how many cases have you read about where the patient goes directly from re-hab to overdosing as soon as they are released? I know of two right off hand in Ozaukee County.)
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Heroin doesnt care what family, church, race or creed you come from and it wastes everyone it touches. Alcohol, cocaine, etc are not heroin. Take the most brilliant, best mannered, most educated person with a back back who tries it once. 6 months from now they are breaking into cars to steal things and, on average, they are dead in 10 years. By then they will have committed hundreds of crimes and in all probability will spread STD and misery.
Also keep in mind the difference between oxy and heroin is simply one of purity and concentration. Rush Limbaugh took up to 25 oxy a day. That is the same as shooting heroin. Rush isnt perfect, but I dont wish death upon him.
I’ve had alcoholic or drug addicted relatives. The best possible outcome for those affected and abused by the addict is to have the bastard die as soon as possible and quit causing heartache and troubles to other peoples lives. There is so much relief (after brief false grief) after they are gone. Take if from someone who has lived through it.
I never once said that junkies only come from some evil sector of society. That is a strawman you are inserting. Have you stopped beating your grandchildren yet?
Look at what I have posted on this thread and on past threads. I oppose legalization of drugs. I am for rehabilitation in prison.
But I also oppose mandating medical services providing free emergency medical care to addicts who overdose, and I oppose taxpayer subsidized emergency medical care for overdosed junkies.
I am all for religious organizations doing what they choose to do for them, but let's stop the government subsidizing their extended criminal careers through money or edicts.
Was that clear?
Tell that to the people whose homes are broken into to steal items to fence them for drugs, the women who become prostitutes to pay for their drug habits,
Those crime problems are greatly exacerbated by drug criminalization, which hyperinflates the cost of drugs and thus the motivation to commit crimes to pay for them.
the families whose lives have been impacted forever by a high driver who ran into their children's cars and killed them,
People who now avoid drugs because of their illegality would under legalization still not commit the still-illegal act of driving impaired - so there would be little to no rise in drug DUIs. And alcohol has been involved in many DUI deaths, yet we rightly haven't deemed that sufficient reason to ban alcohol.
If not relegalization, then what exactly?
Dealers face a real risk of death from competitors, yet whenever one dies or is jailed another quickly springs up to take their place - because criminalization has made the money too good to pass up (in the eyes of many).
It's Amsterdam, which has a crime rate far lower than any North American city of its size.
Do you support leaving that decision to the states rather than fedgov, per the Tenth Amendment?
Good post. And legalization would only make the problems you described worse.
“It is looking at several bills that would track prescription drugs, because prescription drug abuse can lead to heroin addiction.”
Wake up retard reporters at WISN, WI already has a statewide controlled substance database that pharmacists enter every time a controlled substance prescription is filled at a WI pharmacy.
“One bill would require pharmacists to enter prescriptions into a statewide database within 24 hours.”
Pharmacists already have to enter controlled substance prescriptions into the state database within 7 days.
Now the Fascist state of WI has AB 366 which will FORCE pain clinic physicians to maintain a database (under penalty of $100) daily fine and or loss of business)(registration) of financial information of any uninsured (or uncovered) patient that receives a controlled substance prescription. Patients w/o coverage or insurance will NOT be able to use CASH because it’s not traceable. Moreover the totalitarian nut jobs at the WI State Medical Board will have free and easy access to patient financial information w/o patient consent because they have administrative subpoena and don’t need a judge’s approval. The WI rino legislature and rino AG Brad Schimel are all on board and Walker will likely sign it.
So why are these POS rino doing this? They are control freaks and the rinos are intentionally creating a template/legal mechanism for this system (cash bans and forced registration) to be use for gun and ammo registration. The Leftist cities and town are set to enact gun registrations and cash bans on gun stores and gun dealers after they get this bill thorough and it survives legal challenges.
Correction: $1000 daily fine.
Opposite - see post #29.
“Dealers face a real risk of death from competitors, yet whenever one dies or is jailed another quickly springs up to take their place - because criminalization has made the money too good to pass up (in the eyes of many).”
You are right. And because our laws are not enforced, the risk for criminals is drastically reduced.
You are right. And because our laws are not enforced, the risk for criminals is drastically reduced.
I think the risk of jail, however large or small, pales in comparison to the inherent real risk of death that we agree exists. And where's the evidence that "our laws are not enforced"?
There is the other side of the issue chronic pain and the need for narcotics for it and to battle cancer pain.
There is no cure for Osteoarthritis, Osteoporosis, Peripheral Neuropathy, many other diseases that cause pain, the drugs they use have horrible side effects. When the Feds lowered the Tylenol out of Loretabs it made it NORCO, useless for pain control at 5 mg. But enough to addict you and not give you pain relief. Not really better than 2 extra Strength Tylenol.
I watched my parents die of lung cancer, in fact it was the narcotics that stopped my dad’s heart, not the cancer that killed him. Both found to late to treat even with dad having chest xrays every 3 months at the VA.
I live in Chronic pain level 8/9 from various health issues, and all have that work PAIN attached to them. Narcotics don’t touch GI pain unless it’s a very high dose of morphine. I try and get buy on Extra Strength Tylenol, but there are times that is not enough. Chronic pain is mentally and physically stressful. But keeping a person as a Zombie doesn’t work either. Then there is the Kidney damage Tylenol can do. Rock and an hard place to be.
I’m following the story of Joey Feek the female half of Joey & Rory C & W and gospel singers/writers. Joey had a late in life birth to a Down’s daughter who is just 22 months old, then developed Cervical Cancer, Surgery, treatment, pronounced cured. Just to have the same strain return as a 9 MM Sigmoid Tumor. Surgery and treatment, pronounced cured, then went for follow up CT and the Colon Cancer Stage 4 is back. NO more hope from the medical profession. She is doing Hospices in her home town in Alexendria, IN to be near her family. They live and work out of a large farm in Pottsville, TN. This is her Husband’s Rory’s blog on their cancer journey. http://thislifeilive.com/ Joey is nearing the end of life in pain most of us cannot imagine. Not even those of us with chronic pain.
Rory: And now, here I sit beside my dying wife.
I don’t say those words lightly. As a matter-of-fact, I haven’t said them at all. But my beautiful bride has said them to me in these couple of days. Her pain and discomfort has continued to increase daily and so has the morphine to help her be comfortable. The dosage she’s needed to keep the pain away has QUADRUPLE in the last four days.
I’d like to tell you that she’s doing great and is going to beat this thing. But I can’t.
Yesterday with tears in her eyes and mine, Joey held my hand and told me that she has been having serious talks with Jesus. She said she told him that if He’s ready to take her… she’s ready to come home. (to Heaven)
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