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We Will Never Destroy ISIS Without a Full-Blown Declaration of War
Townhall.com ^ | January 23, 2016 | Larry Kudlow

Posted on 01/23/2016 6:17:45 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
You are ignoring that President Bush went before Congress

And gave a vapid, directionless address which asked for nothing.

and the UN

Oh yes, I remember Bush going to the UN, hat in hand, begging for some meaningless "resolution". He should have been impeached right then and there.

21 posted on 01/23/2016 7:03:40 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Jim Noble
Um, Jim?

When was the last time Japan engaged in military adventurism?

22 posted on 01/23/2016 7:12:04 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Iron Munro

Excellent point


23 posted on 01/23/2016 7:19:26 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: grey_whiskers
Um, Jim? When was the last time Japan engaged in military adventurism?

1945, after wave upon wave of catastrophic loss, including the sinking of their main battle fleet, the incineration of their cities by conventional weapons, the deaths of millions of their soldiers, sailors, and pilots, and the imposition of starvation by blockade.

You do that to Arabia and Pakistan, and then, if they don't surrender to our occupation nuke 'em, yes, I agree that would work.

The comprehensive and total defeat and subjugation of the Japanese nation involved more - much, much more - that the two atomic bombs.

24 posted on 01/23/2016 7:22:19 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: Jim Noble
Don't condescend to me, Jim.

Here's the point. If the loss of four carriers at Midway, MacArthur's Island Hopping campaign, Curtis LeMay's firebombing of most of Japan's civilian infrastructure, the great Marianas Turkey Shoot, and all the rest, hadn't induced Imperial High command to surrender...

Just maybe, it was the nukes.

It took Hirohito personally broadcasting his message to get the military high command to give up.

So I conclude, nukes are powerful.

Note, too. How peaceful do you think a military occupation of Japan would've been, in the absence of nukes?

You know, to learn lessons about military occupation of any erstwhile caliphate -- as though the lessons of Iraq and Syria aren't clear enough.

Incidentally, if you think the rest of the world hates the US now? Imagine if we tried to impose starvation by blockade on the Middle East.

Who would enforce an embargo on the sale of oil by Saudi Arabia, for instance?

25 posted on 01/23/2016 7:29:37 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jim Noble
Compelling the submission of the populations of Turkey, Jordan, Palestine, Syria, Sunni Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Pakistan is going to involve a lot more than big holes in the ground.

You forgot Indonesia.

26 posted on 01/23/2016 7:51:01 AM PST by Stentor ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute." Robert Goodloe Harper)
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To: Stentor

I think the Subud influence in Indonesia might make it possible to vassalize them.


27 posted on 01/23/2016 7:54:27 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: Stentor

I agree with your modest proposal. You know... in this day and age with cell phones, go pro cameras and youtube..... a person can search you tube for “Syria war” and watch hours and hours of footage from there. To begin with, the place already looks like London did after Germany bombed it. The devastation of some of those cities is MUCH worse than I initially realized.


28 posted on 01/23/2016 7:56:09 AM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: kjam22

Cynic in me says Homs and Ramadi must be atop where the pipeline goes. Homs is shocking.


29 posted on 01/23/2016 8:01:41 AM PST by txhurl (I'm with the Nasty Canadian '16)
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To: txhurl

I think so too. I think they are trying to own the land where the pipe, or transport trucks move the oil out. It’s cloaked in a religious war, but it’s about the money.


30 posted on 01/23/2016 8:03:22 AM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: kjam22

And with oil cratering, the whole project is stalled and Isis has to layoff!

Homs is practically the smoking heap of rubble mentioned in the bible.


31 posted on 01/23/2016 8:10:24 AM PST by txhurl (I'm with the Nasty Canadian '16)
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To: txhurl

Yes. I always read those prophecies and equated it with nuclear war. They are being fulfilled with convential warefare. Even some of the suburbs of Damascus are starting to see it. Honestly, I’m not sure I want boots on the ground there. I don’t want our guys all shot up over that. We have to find a way to bankrupt ISIS, and secure our borders and let it be.


32 posted on 01/23/2016 8:14:16 AM PST by kjam22 (America needs forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: Kaslin

This is a religious civil war.
Who’s side are we on?
Are we going to fight for Sunni Islam or Shia Islam to take the upper hand in a particular geographic reason?

Why? They will still be fighting each other as they have been for 1400 years and the religious war will flare up again either in Syria or somewhere else.

I fail to see why we need to support one faction of Islam or another faction of Islam.


33 posted on 01/23/2016 8:40:36 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
I fail to see why we need to support one faction of Islam or another faction of Islam.

I don't think you are the only one does.

34 posted on 01/23/2016 8:46:45 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: kjam22

I don’t want a single American troop in any ME sand unless he wants to assist, either.


35 posted on 01/23/2016 8:47:57 AM PST by txhurl (I'm with the Nasty Canadian '16)
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To: Kaslin

The declaration can’t happen until the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration in our government is eliminated.


36 posted on 01/23/2016 8:56:56 AM PST by Old Yeller (Obama is winning the war on terror when you realize he is on the side of the enemy.)
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To: Old Yeller

And that is factual


37 posted on 01/23/2016 8:59:52 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Lorianne

The war in Syria does have elements of the Shia-Sunni struggle present, but the real war is Islam against everyone else on Earth.

From the JQ Adams quote above

and he (Mad Mo) declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.


38 posted on 01/23/2016 9:12:47 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It is Muslims attacking Muslims .. same as it ever was.


39 posted on 01/23/2016 9:16:12 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: PGalt

40 posted on 01/23/2016 9:27:14 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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