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BOOM! Karl Rove Breaks Down How Cruz Camp’s Cheating Stole Iowa from Trump (VIDEO)
thegatewaypundit.com ^ | February 3

Posted on 02/03/2016 6:40:56 PM PST by Helicondelta

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To: dfwgator

There has not been one shred of evidence to support any votes being changed because of the rumor that was inspired by a poorly worded Carson campaign press release.

Karl Rove needs to stick his white board the same place his head is so he can read it better.


581 posted on 02/04/2016 1:38:24 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: Lucky9teen

You believe what you believe. Ted Cruz is just another lifetime politician in the making. He goes whichever the wind blows. Learn to weigh and balance things other people say and find out the answers for yourself. You might be surprised. Besides, Cruz is NOT a natural born citizen. Not eligible.


582 posted on 02/04/2016 1:43:30 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Lagmeister

Thank you for setting things straight. I get so tired of saying the same thing over and over to people who will not hear the truth.
Very well put.


583 posted on 02/04/2016 1:53:24 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: jaydee770

America is ANGRY. Just what about that FACT do you not understand?We want somebody to break a few things and get this country turned around and going in the right direction.
I might even say Trump is a lot like the Marines. THEY BREAK THINGS AND GET THE JOB DONE. That’s what they are trained to do. I am so happy to see someone smash the political correctness that has been smothering this country for far too long. You can have the pussys and the fluff balls. I’ll vote for a MAN!


584 posted on 02/04/2016 1:57:03 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Helicondelta

Rove... I trust him as much as Rosie O’Donnell.


585 posted on 02/04/2016 2:06:43 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So we’re on Tokyo Rove’s side now?

Thanks for the laugh.....

586 posted on 02/04/2016 2:10:30 PM PST by TXSearcher (Longtime Lurker......now a newbie)
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To: Helicondelta

Sheer nonsense. What COULD have happened is not the same as what DID happen.
This is totally a Tempest in a Teapot. Grow up, boys.


587 posted on 02/04/2016 2:15:36 PM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman)
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To: Mollypitcher1
He goes whichever the wind blows.

That's hilarious, coming from someone who supports the biggest flip flopper, ever.

But really...that's all you have? Typical left wing talking points. Ya know, if I didn't see Free Republic in the address bar of my browser, I'd swear I was at DU.

It is unreal the vitrol against the most Conservative candidate we've had, since Ronald Reagan. Just unreal.
588 posted on 02/04/2016 3:19:01 PM PST by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: Helicondelta

Geez, has everyone’s brains fallen or are 12 years old? It’s primary politics.

This is softball stuff compared to history.


589 posted on 02/04/2016 3:22:13 PM PST by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Helicondelta

Please oh genius, explain how it’s cheating? CHEATING? Besides, when is it cheating to tell others about a CNN report?

My god the idiocy comes to the top every election cycle here at FR.


590 posted on 02/04/2016 3:24:03 PM PST by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Mollypitcher1
"...I might even say Trump is a lot like the Marines... ...You can have the pussys and the fluff balls. I'll vote for a MAN!..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh My Word!! Trump couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag. He *hires* muscle to back up that filthy mouth of his (which you seem to have in common). Heck, *YOU* probably have a higher testosterone level than Trump!

Yeah-right! Trump's like a *United States Marine*! Good Gravy! Just when I think the trump cultists can't get any more irrational, one pops up and proves me wrong. I mean come on! He peed backwards and ran from Megyn Kelly!! His supposed "yuuuuge" intellect couldn't even handle that ditzy blonde! Here's the *real* Trump that Megyn Kelly discovered for us:


591 posted on 02/04/2016 5:33:44 PM PST by jaydee770
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To: jaydee770

I’d bet you’re not a veteran. Am I right?


592 posted on 02/04/2016 5:39:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Helicondelta

All I can say about Rove is that he hasn’t picked a winner in decades, and “SCOOTER LIBBY”.


593 posted on 02/04/2016 5:41:44 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ManHunter

So now Karl Rove supports Trump too?!

_____________________________

Wasn’t this just a math exercise?


594 posted on 02/04/2016 6:30:33 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Angry yes, mad, no. Ted Cruz leadership you can't trust!)
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To: dragnet2
"...Am I right?..."

Nope.

595 posted on 02/04/2016 8:15:26 PM PST by jaydee770
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To: BlueDragon

You’re not getting the gist of my point - There is no way to know who would have gotten votes from whom - for ANY of the concerned parties! That is why I will not argue the issue about whether the scheme benefited Carson or any other candidate.

The only issue that matters is that Cruz’ team took a CNN story and expanded upon it to create a false narrative that they knew was not true. However, and as I stated in the last sentence of my post to you, even under these circumstances, I seriously doubt their will be a law suit, etc. To pursue such will be to no one’s be4nefit but the GOPe and the Democrats.


596 posted on 02/04/2016 8:22:28 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: jaydee770

Great. Most Veterans I know are supporting Trump.


597 posted on 02/04/2016 8:28:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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598 posted on 02/04/2016 8:33:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Love that pic ;-)


599 posted on 02/04/2016 8:34:13 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: WTFOVR

That was among the points I was working at establishing in my comment made to others which you butted yourself into.

So who is it that's not getting it? Not me. I had "it" before you ever said a word about -- to me.

Yourself and others have been trying to hammer that. What do you think? I'm like a noOb or something? I see what's going on, and what had been going on leading up to the Iowa caucus, and the various assorted meltdowns since. I've read through dozens of threads (if not multiple dozens of threads) and thousands of comments made here on this forum. I know the score.

What is italicized, above, may be the only issue that matters to YOU, but the way you just stated it, and have been talking about it for the last few days or so itself has false narrative "expansion" to it ---that is not true--- regardless if you recognize that, or not.

What I don't get is how you could have so entirely ignored the feedback and response you most likely have been getting...

It also seems to me that you can scarcely hear yourself talk. If there is no real way to establish who "got" votes from who (provided there was much in the way of last minute shuffling ~not~ coming about through what is otherwise normal & general Iowa caucus practice & procedure, but due instead to some last minute tweeting and emails) then why all the hyperventilating? Who is it all for? Trump?

Carson did say he was not going to himself, personally campaign in New Hampshire, and South Carolina. Right about the time the voting was taking place in the Iowa caucuses, Carson left early (to avoid a storm, it was said) to "change into fresh clothes", so Carson himself said.

Did you listen to that interview? It was weak, man, WEAK. He sounded like a little girl.

Just a little while ago I listened to two recordings at 'conservative treehouse' that did NOT hold the information that the guy who calls himself 'sundance' claimed in headline of the article.

Unless it was said in the second, highly garbled recording of the two, the Cruz campaign did NOT in those recordings say that Carson was quote-unquote "dropping out", albeit if it was said in the second one, I couldn't tell enough of what was said to hear if there was any limiting qualification included ---the truth of the matter being that Carson was personally "dropping out" temporarily, as far as his own appearances at soon up-coming caucus States was concerned.

In the first one, it said by a women from the Cruz campaign that Carson was "taking a leave of absence" -- which he technically was. There was no exaggeration in that message.

You still have a problem with this though, I can see.

What you can't seem to see is that yourself and others have been hyperventilating, and making this be some fault or impurity on the part of even the man Cruz, himself, far beyond what small measure of unfavorable-to-Carson the manner of Cruz's campaign attempting to capitalize on the info more truly was.

I've been reading the threads for the past days, following links, etc.

The overall cumulative effect doubtfully made much difference at all in Carson's final polling results.

I've come across four individuals here on FR that were present at Iowas precincts during the caucusing.

Each one of those persons said that they did not get wind of this aspect of things until after the voting, or even the next day after. They all uniformly have testified that no one they spoke with mentioned the attempted message from the Cruz campaign. That tells me that it failed to widely circulate.

One of those persons was addressed in the comment I made which you initially replied to me, on this thread.

So just wow, bud. You try to tell me I don't understand -- even the point I was making when you first interrupted? And I'm supposed to follow your lead, now?

It's not going to happen. You are entirely unconvincing. There has been plenty of commentary providing greater illumination to the issue.

Like I couldn't figure that out on my own?

But speaking of which -- just who was it that began screeching "lawsuit"?

Don't look now, but if you are a die-hard Trump supporter you may want to go fetch a fresh change of shoes, being as you just blasted the tops off the one's you are presently wearing.

600 posted on 02/04/2016 9:33:21 PM PST by BlueDragon (TheHildbeast is so bad, purty near anybody should beat her. And that's saying something)
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