Confirmed quotes made prior to "Gulf War II"

[Mr Apple]

The cause of Obama as a national figure was a longtime plan put in operation by Soros' bosses long before any Gulf Wars.

Absolutely! You're right on the money!

[Mr Apple]

THE US State Department acts as its own PR man.

Absolutely right again!

[ETL]

But everything there seems to me to be valid, at least in that short excerpt. Didn’t really read much past that.

[uncbob]

And where was that Grand Coalition for GW II ?

And because of Bush I his son had to do Gulf War II

[MarvinStinson]

Code Pink praises Donald Trump after debate

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/269472-code-pink-praises-donald-trump ^

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is being praised by Code Pink, a group that has protested the Iraq War.

Trump garnered support from Code Pink during the GOP debate Saturday night when he called the Iraq War a mistake and accused the George W. Bush administration of lying before the invasion.

[ETL]

And where was that Grand Coalition for GW II?

That was when the Russians began seriously strategizing about their long-term plans for the region, a part of which we see materializing today.

And because of Bush I, his son had to do Gulf War II

Yes, B1 should have completed the job and removed Saddam. Perhaps they felt at the time it would have been better in terms of stability to leave him in power.

[dfwgator]

Yes, B1 should have completed the job and removed Saddam.

Should have never gone there in the first place. So what if Saddam took Kuwait, what's so great about Kuwait, just another backward Arab Muslim country.

[ALASKA]

Quit confusing us with the truth!

[Lakeshark]

W had his flaws, he communicated his vision poorly, he also never fought the left in an attempt to forward a conservative vision, simply never used the bully pulpit. His new tone theory was perhaps the worst policy ever.

He was also not as conservative as I had hoped.

That being said, I think Trump should never have gone with the Bush lied meme of the left, it was not necessary, helpful, or good in the slightest of ways.

There are lots of other ways for Trump to disengage from the Bush policies that have unwittingly been so destructive, I just think he shouldn't have taken democrat lies and talking points as the way to do that.

[xzins]

It is possible that Trump was not using leftist talking points. It is entirely possible that he actually thinks that.

He really did pursue Obama’s birth certificate. I think he really does consider Cruz ineligible. And to think Bush lied to get us into a war is not beyond the realm of a credible conspiracy theory.

[StockJockey]

Well done!

[ETL]

Tanks.

:)

[Lakeshark]

It is entirely possible that he actually thinks that.

If that's so, it diminishes his credibility for me. It's not a credible conspiracy theory, not one bit.

Now, he may have made a political calculation to separate the GOP from the Bush family, but like I say, there are far better ways to do so.

It's okay he can say it was a mistake, it's fine to say we shouldn't have done it, but crossing over and saying he lied is so unnecessary, and so tawdry, and yes, so wrong. It's really not defensible.

[ETL]

If you’re listening to Hannity’s radio show, at least on the east coast, not sure where and when his show airs, he’s about to talk about that NY Times article I linked to on this thread, regarding WMDs in Iraq. Pretty sure he got it from here. Not 100%, but almost, IMHO.

[xzins]

It’s not really unusual. Pat Buchanen believed the same thing.

http://buchanan.org/blog/how-republics-perish-124781

[Lakeshark]

I just read the article you linked. I don’t see where he says that (let alone proves that). Is this the wrong article?

[xzins]

http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-costs-of-war-already-coming-in-527

Sorry, from the start of the war

[Lakeshark]

I read that Buchanan was against the war, not that the administration lied.

Sure, they painted Saddam as a bad guy, but it's not like he wasn't. But that doesn't mean that Bush lied us into the war, nor that Trump was right to say what he said the other night.

What you are forgetting is that every single intelligence agency in the world that thought Saddam had those weapons, heck he used them on Iran and the Kurds. What you are forgetting is the intelligence W based it all on was developed by the CIA and cited by Clinton in the late nineties as a reason to go to war with Iraq.

I'm sorry, I'm not going the way of the Cruzers, Trump was more than wrong to say what he said. He should have held a line in a much better place, and now he just made himself look a bit looney.

Just my opinion, but this one thing he said is neither true, nor right.

[Lakeshark]

A mistake is quite different than a lie, and we will never know if it might have worked to some degree had the left NOT done what they did in using the war as an issue, nor what might have happened if the bamster had not left in a huff. It may not have even been a mistake had those two things not happened.

To lay the blame entirely on W was wrong. There were better ways to divorce the GOP from the Bush family.

[xzins]

Pat also thought he played fast and loose with the facts. That, too, is in that article. It was not a unique perspective.