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Trump asks voters to boycott Apple: 'I think that's a great idea'
Washington Examiner ^ | 19 Feb 16 | GABBY MORRONGIELLO

Posted on 02/19/2016 12:56:20 PM PST by big'ol_freeper

Donald Trump on Friday urged a roomful of voters to boycott the tech giant Apple so long as its chief executive, Tim Cook, refuses to comply with a court order to assist the FBI with hacking into the cell phone of San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook.

"First of all Apple better give the security for that phone," the Republican presidential hopeful said during a campaign rally in Pawleys Island, S.C. "What I think you ought to do is boycott Apple until such time they give that security number. How do you like that?"

"I just thought of it," Trump noted, drawing applause.

"Boycott Apple," he repeated.

"Here's the thing, the phone's not even owned by this young thug that killed people," Trump said, claiming that the cell phone used by Farook is instead "owned by the federal government."

The billionaire suggested that Cook "is looking to do a big number... to show how liberal he is."

"We gotta get to the bottom of it, but we're not going to get to the bottom of it unless we use common sense," Trump said. "So I like the idea of boycotting Apple until such time as they give that information – I think that's a great idea."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; elections; farook; fbiappleiphone; privacy; security; statism; trump; trumpagainstprivacy
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To: Grampa Dave
But we are going to have to get over that because right now we are faced with tremendous threats, and individuals, radical jihadists, that want to destroy us. And we are going to have to weigh these things, one against the other.

Be nice if the government put that much effort into actually keeping the terrorists out of the country in the first place.

221 posted on 02/19/2016 5:03:58 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Drew68

Well yes and no.

Cruz did not say boycott Apple.

Cruz simply said Apple should honor the court order - which they should - if they can.

But the fact is, there is no back door to honor the court order with.


222 posted on 02/19/2016 5:16:34 PM PST by DB
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To: Grampa Dave

You are comparing Apples to oranges.

Trump said everyone should boycott Apple. Cruz said no such thing.

Cruz did say Apple should honor a legal court order. Which is true. The key thing though, there is no back door to unlock the data. On that Cruz was misinformed. So Apple can’t comply without extreme measures which they are not obligated to do.


223 posted on 02/19/2016 5:21:34 PM PST by DB
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Calling for a boycott of Apple is not the same thing and you know it. Trump stepped in it here.


224 posted on 02/19/2016 5:23:22 PM PST by DB
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To: Gator113

Knowing what your talking about might be helpful...


225 posted on 02/19/2016 5:24:58 PM PST by DB
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To: Coronal

I have no earthly clue but I am guessing McAfee does. :-)


226 posted on 02/19/2016 5:26:14 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CA Conservative

It is very likely the government can remove the flash memory chip in the phone and save the contents. After doing so they can wipe them out over and over again trying to break the code without the risk of losing the original encrypted data.


227 posted on 02/19/2016 5:27:18 PM PST by DB
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To: big'ol_freeper

Oh. My. God! This is “When Cults Collide!” How in the heck does an Apple fanboi & Trump fanboi reconcile this? It’s like finding out your wife is cheating on you with a woman... and that she’s a man! Where the heck did I put the popcorn?


228 posted on 02/19/2016 5:46:22 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Trump should be backing Apple against Obuma and his state-sponsored terrorists in the FBI. Dummy.

Screw it. We’re heading for America Revolution 2.0 or secession regardless of who gets elected president. Buy cans of Campbell’s tomato soup while you can.


229 posted on 02/19/2016 5:54:28 PM PST by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Feeling the Bern are you?


230 posted on 02/19/2016 5:59:02 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Trump: "Planned Parenthood does wonderful things")
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To: big'ol_freeper
Nah. I'm just a fan of reasoned arguments. Both Cruz and Trump are wrong here, but rather than explanations, we get two dozen posters exchanging insults. It's called ad hominem, and it's the most basic of logical fallacies. So I figure a little satire is fair turnabout.

BTW, ad hominem is a pretty good description of your post, too (delegitimizing the person rather than their statement). So I figure I'm wasting my time speaking to you in a reasonable fashion. But hope springs eternal...

231 posted on 02/19/2016 6:07:33 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: dfwgator

Apparently he hasn’t read this:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/san-bernardino-shooters-apple-id-passcode-changed-government/story?id=37066070


232 posted on 02/19/2016 6:21:06 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

RE: Nah. I’m just a fan of reasoned arguments.

Don’t ever make me spill my beer in laughter like that...never. Reasoned? LOL.


233 posted on 02/19/2016 6:45:44 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Trump: "Planned Parenthood does wonderful things")
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To: big'ol_freeper

Loose canon

Why is NO ONE bring out the fact that the FBI had these guys on their radar long before they went on the rampage - they were watching them/their movements and contacts.

BUT

the ‘buumer administration called them OFF - said stop to surveillance - it’s pro-filing.

Had they not been called off, they would likely have discovered the illusive third man - probably been able to stop the shooting all together -

The Administration and their muzzie-coddling is to blame here.

Hello?

Anyone?


234 posted on 02/19/2016 7:16:10 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: big'ol_freeper

He likes single payer - start at minute marker 5:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9lFgifzdLA


235 posted on 02/19/2016 7:44:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: DB
t is very likely the government can remove the flash memory chip in the phone and save the contents. After doing so they can wipe them out over and over again trying to break the code without the risk of losing the original encrypted data.

The risk isn't losing the encrypted data - it is the risk of losing the encryption KEY. That key is a taken from a combination of the pin/passcode (which can either be numeric or alphanumeric in iOS 9), a 128-character identifier unique to the specific phone, and a random number known as a "salt". This combination of characters is then run through an algorithm to devise the actual encryption key. If the key is erased from the phone, it is virtually impossible to recreate the same key. Even if you knew the identifier and the pin and tried to recreate the key, you wouldn't get the same one because the "salt" would be different.

236 posted on 02/19/2016 8:40:31 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: dfwgator

I am in total agreement with you. Which Presidential candidate wants to limit their flow into our country?


237 posted on 02/20/2016 6:18:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say hell no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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To: big'ol_freeper; All
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2016-02-20


Observations on Donald Trump's genuine Christian faith.


Disclaimer-1 : I am a Ted Cruz Florida campaigner.

Disclaimer-2 : My wife and I just spent the previous 30 minutes discussing all of the great points that Donald Trump offers.


So here we go.


Donald Trump proclaims that he rarely asks God for forgiveness.

Following the logic expressed this week by a South Carolina pastor ...

"Anyone doesn't ever ask God for forgiveness is NOT a Christian"


Jesus Christ's final words on Calvary's cross included ...

Father forgive them for they know not what they do ...


It follows that "forgiveness" is a pretty big deal.

That's just my two cents ...



P.S. Today is the South Carolina Presidential Primary.

Whatever his great/puzzling positions and excessive twitter tweets at 2 am ...

I staunchly believe that Donald Trump's entrance into the 2016 GOP Presidential campaign ...

is frankly a "divine miracle from God Almighty".

And I say that as a very loyal Ted Cruz supporter.


Donald Trump is THE REASON why JEB! is expected to cancel his 2016 Presidential campaign TONIGHT.

Donald Trump is THE REASON why the GOPe has had its @ss politically kicked from here to eternity.



Whatever happens in South Carolina today ...

EVERY Evangelical Christian Conservative needs to thank God for Donald Trump (even if they vote for Ted Cruz) ...



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238 posted on 02/20/2016 6:49:12 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: bigbob

The FBI could care less if this phone is decrypted, they want to get rid of privacy from all phones. Anyone that is still paying attention cannot think that the US government cares a whit about protecting and serving the public good. WE are the fascist government our ancestors warned us about.


239 posted on 02/20/2016 8:49:44 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (Obama, leader of the Jayvee team.)
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