Posted on 02/26/2016 9:30:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Last night at the debate he said jobs at his Palm Beach country club are seasonal, typically running only 60 to 90 days. After the debate he told CNN that they run four or five months. Setting that aside, along with the fact that we’re in a weird place politically when Marco Rubio is on offense about public indignation over foreign labor, is it true that Americans would rather be unemployed than work part-time? Not according to the local temp office that spoke to the Times for its story about Trump’s hiring practices yesterday:
In Palm Beach County, Tom Veenstra, senior director of support services at CareerSource, a job placement service, took issue with Mr. Trump’s contention that he could not staff his clubs with locals. “We have hundreds of qualified applicants for jobs like those,†he said.
After a report by Reuters in July about Mr. Trump’s use of guest workers, executives from Mar-a-Lago met with recruiters from Mr. Veenstra’s agency, promising to request local workers for 50 positions.
But Mar-a-Lago sent over just a single job request, for a banquet server. Mr. Veenstra said CareerSource referred four applicants to the club, and one of them got the job.
Since then, Mr. Veenstra said, “we haven’t received any other job orders.â€
Per the Times, 296 locals either applied or were referred for more than 500 seasonal jobs at Mar-a-Lago. Just 17 were hired. A few who weren’t told the Times they were holding out for permanent jobs with benefits but one claimed she was eager for a position and never heard back. Trump says that’s because many applicants aren’t qualified for the positions. Not qualified to be … waiters and housekeepers? What sort of hole would you need to have in your education to make you unfit to deliver drinks? I thought this guy loves the “poorly educated.” Did he mean Mexico’s poorly educated?
The man to read this morning about seasonal work at Trump’s club is David Seminara, who’s studied H-2B visas for unskilled foreign workers. He went looking for data on Trump’s club. Quote:
In petitioning for workers, employers are supposed to prove that their hiring need is “seasonal” and “temporary”, yet Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club has sought to import guest workers year after year, including right now. (Their most recent petition was filed in July 2015 and the workers are on contract at the resort until May 31, 2016.)
Trump maintained at the debate on Thursday night that the jobs he had filled with guest workers were hard to fill because they were only for 90 or 120 days. But in fact, the duration of the petitions was never just three months. The work period for Mar-a-Lago’s guest workers, according to the petitions, is nearly always October 1 to May 31, which is 8 months. On other occasions, his company petitioned for even longer periods. For example, in 2009, the Trump National Golf Club petitioned for guest workers for the period January 26 through November 20.
This went on during the height of the recession too, when Americans were more desperate for work than they are now. I’ll bet you could have found some Palm Beachers circa 2009 willing to accept a permanent, if seasonal, position that runs for two-thirds of the year, but then that might have warranted paying benefits and that would have made cheap labor more expensive. Voila: H-2B visas to the rescue. Seminara can’t even be sure that Trump’s use of H-2B workers is limited to the numbers that the Times found since many businesses use shell companies or “body shops,” in which a third party applies for a bunch of foreign workers and then distributes them to other businesses that need them.
None of this matters to anyone who’s leaning Trump, right? Right. Just checking.
It used to be a joke on freerepublic win some RINO said illegals will do work that Americans won’t do. But now they’ve joined the Rino train.
He sounds like Yeb.
I guess the wall will have holes in it for workers Trump needs.
We used to have a program that mimicked what Trump did — THE BRACERO PROGRAM under Truman and Eisenhower.
What the heck happened to it?
....at the low wage I want to pay them.
He hires people. The others have hired no one and have never ran a business. Nothing illegal about what Don has done.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Trump!
Trump is not actually a pure KEEP THE ILLEGALS OFF guy. If you look at his statements in the recent past (August last year), he is open to give “law abiding” illegals a chance to re-apply to come back LEGALLY.
See here:
Nothing illegal about what Don has done.
He hired paid illegal migrant workers to complete his projects. By definition there’s something illegal about what he’s done.
RE: . Nothing illegal about what Don has done.
So, you support a law that will allow foreigners to come and work on jobs “Americans won’t do”?
Well there actually was something illegal what he did that’s why he paid a fine. There was nothing illegal when the Senate tried to give us total amnesty so I guess you’re for that too because it’s not illegal?
RE: He hired paid illegal migrant workers to complete his projects.
Didn’t they come in on H2 visas?
Trump speaks the truth. Some American prefer to collect unemployment and collect welfare than work.
I just check and the number of workers ever hired by Cruz and Rubio combined is 0.
“We used to have a program that mimicked what Trump did — THE BRACERO PROGRAM under Truman and Eisenhower.
What the heck happened to it?”
The labor unions killed the bracero program in 1965. It should be brought back so that Mexican farm workers could come up here and work TEMPORARILY for a few months at a time. The good part about the bracero program was the farm workers kept their dependents in Mexico and were not a burden to American taxpayers.
They also didn’t hire any illegals...so...
thank you for agreeing that Cruz and Rubio have never created a single job.
It is only certain low skilled jobs, has anyone been to a University campus lately, there are certain academic disciplines that most of the faculty are from non-US citizens on H1B visas, engineering, Economics, Math, Physics, faculty are dominated by non-US citizens.
Want proof? Cut welfare by slow reductions until none at all except to the truly needy.
It is only certain low skilled jobs, has anyone been to a University campus lately, there are certain academic disciplines that most of the faculty are from non-US citizens on H1B visas, engineering, Economics, Math, Physics, faculty are dominated by non-US citizens.
None of this matters because it does not take into account the uniqueness of Palm Beach as an International Winter Playground. Far too many locals are simply not qualified. in addition, many are not willing to work part time and would rather stay on unemployment until they find a full time job.
The “Season” in Palm Beach begins a slow buildup beginning in November to a peak in February and March with a tail off depending when Easter falls, early or late in April. Depending on “off season” bookings for group or corporate meetings and wedding packages or other extra-season demands, a year around employment is impossible for many establishments beyond their base employees. Therefore, “Height of Season”—the time of greatest need of service personnel is about 90 days, max....with “Season” employment which could last from some date on the “front end” late October or into November, to the “End of season”, last of April or maybe, even through May. Trump was absolutely correct with both dates. Cruz is yammering about something he has no knowledge of. Many multilingual or bilingual persons are employed in the winter in the town of Palm Beach, where Mar A Lago is located. Top end businesses have many foreign (European)visitors, French and English being the preferred combo of languages. In Europe, if one speaks French and English, one can go anywhere and be understood. In the People business, the establishment must cater to its guests, their wants and needs are priority if one is to be successful. Worth Avenue is a World Famous Shopping Street along with Fifth Avenue, the Champs Elysee, Rodeo Drive, etc. What works in Anytown, U.S.A. doesn’t work in Palm Beach.
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