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Pilot shortage hits US regional airlines
Yahoo News ^ | 6 March 2016 | Luc Olinga

Posted on 03/06/2016 7:56:20 AM PST by SkyPilot

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To: SkyPilot
Quick! Hire ISLAMIC PILOTS!

Because Diversity! Also #NeverTrump !

...oh wait.

61 posted on 03/06/2016 11:50:07 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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62 posted on 03/06/2016 11:50:46 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: grey_whiskers; All

Anyone beside me watching “Highway thru Hell”, notice the number of foreign drivers on the(crashed) big rigs?
Some don’t look like they are really qualified. Last night one jumped out of a moving rig because he thought it was on fire. It had over heated and was steaming anti-freeze.


63 posted on 03/06/2016 11:56:12 AM PST by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty!)
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To: SkyPilot

“Regional carriers pay pilots an average of $27,350 per year, according to Paul Ryder, a captain at ExpressJet Airlines who is active with the ALPA. That compares with an annual salary of $103,390 at large airlines, according to US Labor Department data.”

That is because the regionals are populated with young pilots accruing hours and once they get the hours and experience they move on. . .hence the lower average salary.

1,500hrs is minimum hrs for ATP rating, a MUST HAVE ticket for the majors.


64 posted on 03/06/2016 12:30:17 PM PST by Hulka
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To: SkyPilot

“Today, the regional sector accounts for half or more of all flying, and pilots are realizing that a job with a regional often means an entire... career with a regional,” Smith said. “

. . .and they are not happy about it.


65 posted on 03/06/2016 12:31:08 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Moonman62

“As the article points out, the pay for regional pilots is atrocious”

Not just regionals, but for the majors as well, not much better than the regionals.


66 posted on 03/06/2016 12:32:35 PM PST by Hulka
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To: SkyPilot; Dilbert San Diego

“The downsizing of the military has had a very detrimental effect on the airline’s pool of candidates.”

Very true.

UPT classes are about as small as they have ever been.


67 posted on 03/06/2016 12:34:03 PM PST by Hulka
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68 posted on 03/06/2016 12:35:18 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Dilbert San Diego
“Raise airfares and thus cut the customer base??”

From your lips to gawd’s ear. . .perhaps with increased fares then all the unwashed, entitled, spoiled, pajama-wearing-pillow-carrying, loud toads (not counting children) that fly once a year to see Aunt Agnus would take a bus (or drive).

69 posted on 03/06/2016 12:37:17 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Vermont Lt; Dilbert San Diego

“The fighter and A10 jocks mostly work for contractors. None of them fly much any more at all.”

Interesting but not in my experience.

Living in the DFW area, and a former (retired) USAF A-10 fighter pilot (A-10 is a fighter, see previous threads on that subject) and F-15E fighter pilot, almost all of my peers that jumped early or waited until retirement went straight to the majors. I know of no one that went to fly the corporate route or those rent-a-jet companies, and only two that I know of went with a regional (both wanted to be close to their original home-patch).


70 posted on 03/06/2016 12:44:23 PM PST by Hulka
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To: kearnyirish2

That and neither pilot had training and experience when it came to icing and how to recover from a stall.


71 posted on 03/06/2016 12:48:59 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Mileage varies. I am sure there are more of them down there that I know up here.


72 posted on 03/06/2016 1:07:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Hulka

True. All of what you said. However, read a few of the posts are the language in the article. Pilots are now finding they can expect to stay in the Regionals for much longer, perhaps their entire flying career. Most pilots can “embrace the suck” for awhile, but not forever.


73 posted on 03/06/2016 1:54:26 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Hulka

Just curious if you knew what the average first officer pay these days was at FedEx, Delta, American, etc?


74 posted on 03/06/2016 1:55:46 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Hulka
From your lips to gawd’s ear. . .perhaps with increased fares then all the unwashed, entitled, spoiled, pajama-wearing-pillow-carrying, loud toads (not counting children) that fly once a year to see Aunt Agnus would take a bus (or drive).

When I was a little kid, we would fly a few times a year as a family. My mom worked in the reservations dept of an airline, and we got some space A privlidges.

Back in the early to mid-70s, people dressed up to travel. The airport lounges were filled with polite, well groomed, well attired passengers.

Today's airport terminals......well, you know.

75 posted on 03/06/2016 1:58:40 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: BluH2o

“My question ... do US carriers have similar pilot training programs.”

Delta just started doing this.


76 posted on 03/06/2016 2:01:35 PM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: SkyPilot

True.


77 posted on 03/06/2016 2:45:51 PM PST by Hulka
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To: SkyPilot

Sadly. . .a day gone by and likely never to be seen again.


78 posted on 03/06/2016 2:46:31 PM PST by Hulka
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Not off-hand. When we get together discussions are more of the “old man” type, but I can ask. . .


79 posted on 03/06/2016 2:47:31 PM PST by Hulka
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To: BluH2o

“JetBlue Airways Corp., breaking with historical practices at U.S. airlines, plans to recruit potential pilots with no flight experience and provide its own training under a proposal awaiting approval from federal regulators”


80 posted on 03/06/2016 3:21:03 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Political Correctness is a kool-aid drinking suicide cult)
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