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Doomsday Weapon: Russia’s New Missile Shocks and Dazzles US, China [US Missile Defense Useless]
Sputnik News ^ | 03/12/2016

Posted on 03/12/2016 5:47:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Boomer One

[Maybe this will wake up our youth]

I doubt it. They are too busy fighting virtual wars on their computers.


21 posted on 03/12/2016 6:29:41 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed in the nation whose God is the Lord)
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To: Stormy_2021

RE: You do realize that Sputnik News is owned and operated by the Russian government...

I wouldn’t trust a word they print...

________________________

I already knew that this would be one of the responses.

My answer is “I don’t know” if this news is true or false.


22 posted on 03/12/2016 6:34:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This story is TOTALLY FALSE. According to armchair experts ON THIS SITE, the fact that we spend 10 times as much on our military means that the Russians CAN NEVER be a threat to us.

So don’t worry, they won’t have a chance against our (barely existent) missile defenses - THEY JUST DON’T SPEND ENOUGH.

(this was in context to the neo’s here wanting to start WW3 over the Ukraine)


23 posted on 03/12/2016 6:36:39 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Lurker

Seems to me the warhead would already be lit up from reentry. As for wings, even the hypersonic test bird has wings. Russia does have titanium. We had to buy it from them to build the blackbird. And then there’s ceramic coatings

As for how much they could control? Don’t know. But even small adjustments could be enough to make it hard to hit.

Hey I’m not an AS engineer, so what do I know.


24 posted on 03/12/2016 6:37:04 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Lurker

Lifting body style reentry vehicle and micro thrusters.


25 posted on 03/12/2016 6:58:46 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: SeekAndFind

Developed with all the cash gave Obama gave Russia when he killed NASA and outsourced our space programs to the Russians


26 posted on 03/12/2016 7:03:01 AM PST by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Millera)
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To: Boomer One; All

“Maybe this will wake up our youth, if they don’t scramble to their “safe” places.”

Probably not. ;-)

Anyhow, here’s more information:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/ss-31.htm


27 posted on 03/12/2016 7:14:36 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Cruz '16!)
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To: SeekAndFind
...the fear it had instilled in the hearts of foreign militaries...

I don't see it. Most Countries have no means of defending themselves against any kind of ICBM. So in that regard this is no different than any other ICBM.

When asked about the US missile defense system, he said that it was “absolutely useless” against the RS-26.

Maybe. Maybe not. "absolutely useless" is an awfully big claim...

When asked whether the new Russian ICBM had caught the Americans flatfooted, the expert said that not only the Americans were clueless but that the Chinese too now had something to worry about.

Oh, sure. Because being under development for years and having the Topol-M predecessor wasn't clue enough. I'm sure the US Missile Defense types have just ignored those developments for years. :-/

“Russia is 100-percent safe now, unlike everybody else,” he emphasized.

Perhaps someone should explain M-A-D to him.

Moreover, its booster stage is down to under five minutes, which means that NATO radars in Europe will have no time to register the launch.

Funny, I thought launch detection was handled by satellites. As far as I know, most of the European missile defense stuff is going to be more terminal mode. So they really won't care about boost or ballistic phases anyway.

Adding to NATO air defenders’ worries, during the descending section of its trajectory, with only a few hundred kilometers left to the target, the missile’s warheads suddenly take a dive, lose altitude, and continue the approach as a cruise missile.

JLENS. Seems like this would also put them in the engagement envelope for lower-tier systems like Patriot. Shrug. Ok by me.

28 posted on 03/12/2016 7:14:47 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Lurker
Yeah, you can do supersonic coast - our (now retired) Phoenix air-to-air missile did that. Some of the Navy's SAMs (SM-2s) do that (I think). The trick is, you gotta be up high, where the air is thin. Down low, "like a cruise missile" as they claim the air it far too thick and you'd scrub off all speed. Then you'd be a slow, hot target with a decent RF signature too - easy pickings.

Even up high you're going to generate a lot of heat and more than likely scrub off any ablative RAM coating. So you're still going to stand out. Maneuvering scrubs energy. You'll also be well within the engagement envelopes of standard SAMs. These are relatively cheap and plentiful compared to missile defense interceptors. You can volley fire a dozen SAMs at these things. Your typical SAM is designed to intercept maneuvering targets and thus can pull tremendous Gs itself turning to the intercept point.

Is this a threat? Sure. Is it unbeatable? Not in the least. Just a different set of problems, all solvable.

29 posted on 03/12/2016 7:23:10 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Mark17

But General, Can they evade the air defenses?

30 posted on 03/12/2016 7:29:41 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: BobL

Yep and that’s what IBM thought when a couple guys in a garage changed the world...


31 posted on 03/12/2016 7:38:43 AM PST by Paco
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To: SeekAndFind
The Doomsday Machine
32 posted on 03/12/2016 7:39:51 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Lurker
Would love to learn how they pull that trick off

I don't know, but it may be like the zig-zagging of a naval vessel, computer controlled of course to be fairly random. It would create some misses I'm sure.

33 posted on 03/12/2016 7:40:43 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: BobL

We put all our money into either weapons that will not float or will not fly - but they are very expensive and we need more like them if we ever hope to equal the Russians ...


34 posted on 03/12/2016 8:48:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

You don’t need to tell me that. We also have self-imposed taxes (like racial quotas and similar contract requirements) which results in an army of well-paid but TOTALLY INCOMPETENT people driving up the cost of hardware - to the point where we are likely to get CRUSHED if we get into a shooting war with either Russia or China (or maybe even North Korea).

We could keep the dollar spending on the military CONSTANT, and get triple our value - if we would elect someone that would take that path...


35 posted on 03/12/2016 8:52:24 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Laser defenses. Instant hit no matter the path.


36 posted on 03/12/2016 1:03:26 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: lucky american
Its warheads are supersonic

Every ICBM warhead has reentry speed of about 4 miles/second (about 14,000 MPH)--supersonic is 650-750 MPH depending on altitude. That's by definition, you schmuck. If it didn't have those flight characteristics, it wouldn't be an ICBM.

This is the word of an "expert"? In media language, "military expert" is "journalist who gets put on that desk because it was vacant when he showed up his first day of work". And I use the term "journalist" because it always gets a laugh.

“Russia’s new RS-26 missile travels along a continuously changing trajectory and as such it has no analogues in the world,” the expert said.

The Advanced Maneuverable Reentry Vehicle was fielded by McDonnel-Douglas in the 1970s and has been carried by the Minuteman missile since then.

Have I been the only person to notice that the media has been flooded by these bogus Chinese and Russian "killer weapon that nobody has ever seen before" stories? I doubt it. What's sad is that the American news media just parrots this garbage because having any military knowledge is taboo among them. Judging by the response on FR, the average person isn't much better.

37 posted on 08/19/2016 11:04:44 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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