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In Hard-Hit Ohio Steel Town, Trump and Sanders Resonate
NBC News ^ | 12 Mar 2016, 10:42 am ET | Leigh Ann Caldwell and Matt Rivera

Posted on 03/12/2016 11:11:58 PM PST by blueplum

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To: Cobra64

Like I say, when I heard El Rushbo praising Bill Clinton for getting NAFTA “right” I knew all I needed to know way back then.

The country that once had many steel mills (U.S. Steel going down?), airplane factories, etc. has been sold off, chopped up, usurped, invaded by commies, hucksters and those whose devotions are with other countries. Not that you don’t know all that already.

I shudder when I think of the future. I have already seen a pretty full glimpse of it personally and I wish I didn’t know what I know.


21 posted on 03/13/2016 1:41:56 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris; All
I'm with you brother. My family was in the steel business since 1888 (full line steel service center) and we were forced to buy steel offshore to stay competitive with our competition buyin steel from Europe and Japan at the time. I got fed up and got out of the business when Bethlehem closed its mills.

now I have four young grand children and I'm scared to death for my kids and the youg ones.

The politicians don't understand that actions have consequences. Trump and Fiorina are the only two that know anything about business. The rest are career politicians and lawyers. Quite frankly, there are too many here that are clueless when it comes to business. All they do is criticize, but they've never had any skin in the game of running a successful business enterprise.

22 posted on 03/13/2016 1:55:35 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Cobra64

[The politicians don’t understand that actions have consequences]

They don’t care. Whatever money these whores can steal, move to offshore bank accounts, buy retirement villas in Belize or wherever, that’s all they are about.

All they are hell-bent on, is telling whatever lie the deem necessary, to put their like-minded brothers and sisters into office. The rest of us be damned.

They’ll show concern, act all interested, and then go right back to selling out the country. My industry has been outsourced, too. I used to prosper and contribute thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of dollars a year to the treasuries of federal, state and city governments. Those days are pretty much over; cutting out American jobs, they cut their own throats.

20 years ago, you could never make me believe this country was that stupid or governed by so many traitors, liars and cheaters at all levels.

Boy, was I wrong.


23 posted on 03/13/2016 3:02:51 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Whenifhow

Ohio ping list


24 posted on 03/13/2016 3:04:41 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: SaveFerris

[All they are hell-bent on, is telling whatever lie they deem necessary, to put their like-minded brothers and sisters into office. The rest of us be damned.]

Fixed


25 posted on 03/13/2016 3:07:20 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: cba123
Stop sending American jobs elsewhere. For one entire generation EVERYONE has been selling out America.

I would say “Stop chasing jobs away”.

US tax and environmental policies are chasing businesses overseas.

We have the highest business tax rates in the industrialized world. Our environmental regulations are on the war path against industry. We tax overseas profits returned to the US; no one else does that.

The US is anti-business and it shows.

26 posted on 03/13/2016 3:10:45 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: blueplum
Okay, Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong?

TPP was passed with a simple majority due to the Corker amend and signed by hussein.

It was passed by all participants and signed in NZ last month.

The final agreement does not go into effect until ratified by 85% of signatories within 2 yrs.

So this can still be stopped if congress does not ratify in another vote?

27 posted on 03/13/2016 3:13:37 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: tcrlaf

Lots of places in Ohio USED to be Steel Mill towns, they USED to be Paper Mill Towns, they USED to be Auto Towns, they USED to be Tire Mill towns..................

I’m from Youngstown,Ohio..once a thriving city with 40,000+ workers in steel mills...now all gone , and the town is almost a third world place now


28 posted on 03/13/2016 3:55:56 AM PDT by RaginRak
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To: blueplum

The symmetry is beautiful. The corrupt democrat establishment will almost certainly steal the nomination from Bernie, even though he is winning at the polls. The corrupt republican establishment is trying to steal the nomination from Trump, even though he is winning at the polls. Both appeal, in different ways, to those who have been harmed by the Obama economy. It should not be that hard for Trump to win over angry Bernie voters, despite their openness to socialism. He may even educate them along the way.


29 posted on 03/13/2016 4:25:19 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to meand over an is worthless." - Scalia)
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To: blueplum

Ah, good old Lorain, my home town. Completely ruined like every other democrat/union run city. We once had American Shipbuilding, owned by George Steinbrenner. The unions ran him, and the shipbuilding industry out of Lorain.

Did they learn? Nope. Another democRAT mayor ran the Ford plant out of town.

Have they learned yet? Nope. The union will either support Hitlery or Bernie.


30 posted on 03/13/2016 4:34:57 AM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: blueplum; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping

Thanks, Pontiac!

Let me know if you would like on or off the list.


31 posted on 03/13/2016 4:57:08 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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"why doesn’t Cruz, Rubio and Kasich resonate with the factories closing and jobs being sent abroad?"

Their plans for dealing with it face reality. The Sanders and Trump plans sound good, but are unrealistic.

32 posted on 03/13/2016 5:19:27 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: eyedigress
Most of OH is communist

OH has a conservative legislature which Kasich has worked against in his support of expanded Medicare and Common Core. Add to that OH voters are capable of sorting through it. They actually voted correctly on the marijuana issue....no to a law with a lot of negatives built in, no to allowing monopolies through legislation.

My take on OH is that it's populated by families from farming and manufacturing traditions. Most want the gov to do too many things for them, for sure, but they also want the kinds of jobs their families had.

I wouldn't even try to guess who wins on Tuesday. Different parts of the state have different issues. I would guess one thing, that the Lorraine steel jobs leaving hurts Kasich and helps Trump. Too much of Kasich's jobs miracle has been lower paying jobs, often filled by invaders, that hardly add up to the well-paying jobs which have disappeared.

33 posted on 03/13/2016 5:55:33 AM PDT by grania
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To: tcrlaf
I remember when the Lorain Pellet Terminal opened for business. That killed off a couple of mills on the Cuyahoga. One of them was across the river from our fueling terminal.
34 posted on 03/13/2016 6:19:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: tcrlaf
ALL were shut down, in very large part, to ever-increasing government regulations making the operations unprofitable.

People still believe that propaganda. LOL.

Those companies left to exploit slave labor and re-import product at first world prices. They used a lot of excuses like that in the process to fool idiots like you.

35 posted on 03/13/2016 6:24:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cobra64
The EPA and labor unions have destroyed heavy industry in this country.

Those are two of the best excuses for cover and justification when moving offshore to exploit slave wages. You fell for it. Apparently still are falling for it. What a maroon some people are.

Big Cap manufactures love unions, the EPA and OSHA. It is the their cover staery....

36 posted on 03/13/2016 6:28:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Pontiac
US tax and environmental policies are chasing businesses overseas.

Free Traitor™ Propaganda.

37 posted on 03/13/2016 6:31:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RaginRak
I’m from Youngstown,Ohio..once a thriving city with 40,000+ workers in steel mills...now all gone , and the town is almost a third world place now

Bowel "movement conservatives" call this creative destruction.

38 posted on 03/13/2016 6:32:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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