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To: Kaslin

HotAir proves that it is, yet again, full of hot air. You don’t just punish the person who delivers the killing blow, you punish all of the accomplices to murder.

Now if you want to argue that Trump made a political miscalculation because this nation is filled with murderous Leftists and philosophically retarded “pro-lifers”, and has a lack of philosophically consistent pro-lifers, then that would be a reasonable premise.


4 posted on 03/30/2016 6:35:49 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Objective Scrutator

In the War on Drugs, we arrest both users and dealers, it’s the same concept, here, right?


30 posted on 03/30/2016 7:30:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Objective Scrutator; RitaOK; Tennessee Nana; Dr. Sivana; Norm Lenhart; Finny
I assume that this is a relatively innocent mistake by Trump who I do not favor.

That said, his comments are not the vernacular of pro-lifers. As a practical matter, there are many more women who have had abortions than there have been doctors willing to perform them. Cut off the doctors and the abortion rate will decline accordingly. Jail some doctors and take their medical licenses permanently and few medical students or doctors will run the risk. The doctor makes a profit by killing the baby and generally dismembering it by curettage or suction. The woman is often a far easier object of sympathy.

The purpose of the pro-life exercise is to effectively finish off abortion. Dr. Dismemberment is a lot easier to convict before a jury than is the woman. We will win some and we will lose some but each one convicted and jailed will intimidate many others out of the grisly business of baby-killing. We will still see some jury nullification as pro-aborts lie their way on to juries and vote to free Dr. Dismemberment. That is a vast improvement over the current status quo.

Finally, and most importantly, to convict Dr. Dismemberment requires actual competent testimony and evidence. Women quite often have second thoughts after the abortion and change their minds. When abortion is the felony that it ought to be, the testimony of the woman against the abortionist is about as competent evidence as exists. Her frequent position as an object of sympathy turns that factor against Dr. Dismemberment. Defense counsel will try to argue that the testimony, if believed, would mean that the woman is also guilty. Allow her to be prosecutable but give her immunity from prosecution in exchange for full and honest testimony and have the prosecutor bring out that arrangement in his case in chief.

Your argument that she must also be prosecuted is a false moral equivalency argument. Noting that does not make pro-lifers either "philosophically retarded" nor philosophically inconsistent. The reasonable premise from your argument is that you think 60+ million surgical abortions to date is just peachy keen and should continue apace and that is why you would throw monkey wrenches into any legal strategy that would slow the killing much less eliminate most of it. Abortions, like bank robberies will still occur but Dr. Dismemberment has a LOT more to lose than do feral urban youth. Dr. D will take up something more useful which does not threaten to strip his MD license and throw him in the hoosegow like treating the sniffles.

34 posted on 03/30/2016 7:36:13 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Objective Scrutator
Checking your homepage after posting to you, I find that your idea of "consistency" and non-retarded philosophy for pro-lifers is to prosecute, convict and execute all who are found to have been involved in abortion. Let me suggest that there is no available path to that goal that will not lead to jury nullification on a massive scale. Fair? Possibly not. Ask me if I care. The purpose of this exercise is to put an end to abortion to the maximum extent possible. Distinctions may be made between the woman and Dr. Dismemberment. The doctor is the primary target because he is the choke point and the direct killer.

Patton did not attack all German towns and troop concentrations equally but rather strategically. If his tanks needed fuel, bad luck for German troops guarding fuel depots and better luck for Nazi bureaucrat soldiers. Fuel first and bureaucrats if and when he got around to them. That is how it works.

It is not at all clear what "murderous Leftists" have to do with this question unless they are "murderous Leftist" abortionists.

40 posted on 03/30/2016 7:51:24 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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