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Electoral Map Is a Reality Check to Donald Trump’s Bid [Hillary Beating Trump Even In Utah!!]
NYTimes ^ | April 02, 2016 | JONATHAN MARTIN and NATE COHN

Posted on 04/02/2016 9:20:46 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: Chad_the_Impaler

It is the same media. Just as out of touch. History is not repeating itself. It is the same day just a different reporter.


61 posted on 04/02/2016 10:40:49 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Steelfish
On the contrary, I would argue you are describing the GOP establishment. Trump is the proverbial shot across the bow.
Beyond the electoral politics is an anger. I''ll prognosticate that if the GOP succeeds in rigging the nomination, a lot of people are going to be surprised a few years from now at the near unanimous agreement in DC at nullifying the 2nd amendment.
62 posted on 04/02/2016 10:41:45 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
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To: MaxistheBest
Cruz’s bible thumping days will be over.

You mean the country's days will be over. Let's face it. Conservatism has lost and the country has permanently lurched to the left.

So Trump, or a Trump-like candidate is the new normal. In effect he, and others to follow will be the new Romney. The chances of seeing an actual conservative again in our lifetime is slim to none.

So when people say that Trump will build a wall, right-side trade etc., one can't help but ask: what is it that you're attempting to preserve?

63 posted on 04/02/2016 10:41:58 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Steelfish

Just saw this about poor old Sarah Palin. I did love her once.

In her Wisconsin debut as a Donald Trump surrogate, Sarah Palin was met with tepid applause and stone-faced silence Friday night at a Milwaukee County Republican gathering.

In contrast, the 750 Republicans at American Serb Hall cheered enthusiastically for Sen. Ted Cruz, who was introduced by Gov. Scott Walker and talk radio host Vicki McKenna.

The contrasting receptions illustrated why the Texas senator has surged past the real estate mogul and reality TV celebrity in the latest polls, especially in southeastern Wisconsin.


64 posted on 04/02/2016 10:43:11 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: gunsequalfreedom; Chad_the_Impaler

The Reagan comparison to Carter is pure nonsense. The demographics have changed. Reagan may lose California today and never forget it was Carter’s failed rescue attempt that went up in flames and with that his polls collapsed


65 posted on 04/02/2016 10:44:11 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Artcore

Trumps wins in a very fractured primary and collapses when the field winnows down.


66 posted on 04/02/2016 10:47:11 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Exactly. That was a great movie and Col. Nicholson, while admirable in so many ways, was so obsessed with his success with the bridge, forgot the big picture until it was almost too late.

This odd candidate who has strangely captured so many hearts here is ruining things for us.

He cannot beat Hillary.


67 posted on 04/02/2016 10:48:32 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Artcore

If you can’t address the substance of the article you show exactly why Trump is getting smashed in the polls.


68 posted on 04/02/2016 10:50:44 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They are not worried about it at all.

They are dancing at the thought of it.

Hillary has her base of idiots who will vote for her even if she is in a prison cell. You know that.

She will also get the gimme voters who want the government to take care of them.

Our candidate has to be well liked enough to get Republicans to vote for him.

Trump is not well liked.


69 posted on 04/02/2016 10:51:32 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: dr_lew

Actually, Colonel Nicholson fell on the plunger


70 posted on 04/02/2016 10:52:09 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Hoodat

The saddest part of all this is that Trumpkins act like the three proverbial monkeys and cannot accept reality even when it stares them down the barrel of an electoral gun.


71 posted on 04/02/2016 10:54:19 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Crucial

That statement hurt him a lot.

His trumpers were actually defending it, but no one else in the world thought it was an okay thing to say.

He walked it back the next day, but the damage was done.

It revealed his shallow mindset. He doesn’t have core principles to rely on so he says the first thing that comes into his mind. I think he was trying to show just how anti-abortion he is now after embracing abortion for so many years.

But he wasn’t smart enough to pull it off.


72 posted on 04/02/2016 10:55:52 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura

You couldn’t have put it better. Thanks for explaining the analogy to the Trumpkins.


73 posted on 04/02/2016 10:56:32 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: dr_lew

Yeah, it’s worth picking up again.

I just saw it a couple of months ago from TCM.


74 posted on 04/02/2016 10:57:22 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura

He’s the last nationalist standing. It’s all I need from him and all I expect. No one else offers even that.


75 posted on 04/02/2016 11:08:04 PM PDT by Crucial (At the heart all leftists is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
If Cruz can’t beat Trump in the Primary, how can he beat Hillary in the General?

This is one of the dumbest questions asked here on FR every single day. Quick answer, different populations are being surveyed, in the one that COUNTS (General electorate) Trump loses to Hillary, whereas Cruz is about even. Another way to explain it, in the Primaries, its Republicans being asked, but Republicans only amount to 1/3 of the electorate. There, perhaps this will be the last time this has to be explained.

And like you, I too was a former Cruzer. Also like you, I'll support the nominee against Hellary.

76 posted on 04/02/2016 11:10:53 PM PDT by Paradox (My positions can evolve, but Principles should be immutable.)
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To: Steelfish

Utah is very progressive. They support Romney and Cruz can’t get anymore liberal then those two.


77 posted on 04/02/2016 11:14:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: JPX2011

We lost our chance for a conservative president in 2012 when Santorum lost the primary to Romney.


78 posted on 04/02/2016 11:24:16 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: napscoordinator
We lost our chance for a conservative president in 2012 when Santorum lost the primary to Romney.

Totally agree. And now Trump is seen by his supporters as the second coming. When in reality he's nothing more than a band-aid placed over an infected wound. If that.

79 posted on 04/02/2016 11:30:19 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Mike Darancette

Well, he is the only one that will close to 1237, so if he doesn’t make it say hello to Republican Nominee Paul Ryan and goodbye to the Office of the Presidency.


80 posted on 04/02/2016 11:39:30 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat Party. (Or the GOPe))
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