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Millennials brush off Founding Fathers, overwhelmingly oppose free speech
The Washington Times ^ | April 6, 2016 | Bradford Richardson

Posted on 04/06/2016 9:52:50 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: subterfuge
Woman have been suffraging for too long already!

Well, now that you mention it....

21 posted on 04/06/2016 10:32:42 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: jazusamo

And no doubt the press is now full of people who would be willing to curtail the freedom of the press in exchange for giving up the right to bear arms. I’ve been waiting for a mainstream reporter to suggest this. Maybe it’s already happened?


22 posted on 04/06/2016 10:50:07 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll
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To: IronJack

>You can’t “vote” to override the First Amendment any more than you can vote to make slavery legal.

Incorrect.

Leftist and ignoramuses vote, to have govt, steal from one to give to another; be that financial (welfare) or services (aka h’care)....slavery.

Govt, and their ‘voters’/lackeys, violate our Rights at every turn.

For the past 100+yrs. the Citizens of this once fair Country have known nothing BUT Fascism/Socialism. Parents *gratefully* sent their little ones off to be indoctrinated, I mean ‘schooled’. Colleges continued the curricula.

Tell ‘em, to their face, they “can’t”. Just prepare for the dead-stare as you try to explain Rights before they walk away from the ‘fruit-cake Right-winger’.


23 posted on 04/06/2016 11:09:50 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: jazusamo

....and so, the children must be TAUGHT.


24 posted on 04/06/2016 11:24:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper (Just say no to HRC)
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To: jazusamo

The natural end point of political correctness.


25 posted on 04/06/2016 11:48:31 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: jazusamo

Just like the morons who think I shouldn’t have guns I say “Good luck trying to shut me up”, especially while I still practice Amendment 2 to protect Amendment 1.


26 posted on 04/06/2016 12:11:18 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Feckless

Bump!


27 posted on 04/06/2016 12:17:33 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Flick Lives
It's: War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Learn these Comrade or it's Room 101 for you.
28 posted on 04/06/2016 12:57:31 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Flick Lives
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 - 2004)

29 posted on 04/06/2016 1:11:42 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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30 posted on 04/06/2016 1:15:47 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: jmacusa
It's: War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Learn these Comrade or it's Room 101 for you.

LOL! I'll just head on down to room 101R for the remedial group.

31 posted on 04/06/2016 1:43:14 PM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: i_robot73
The Constitution -- if upheld -- is pretty clear. And with the precedents that, ironically, were set by liberals who vastly expanded the scope of "free speech," there is no way a court can rule consistent with precedent that words that make the snowflakes uncomfortable or afraid are not protected.

This is a delicious example of the Left now reaping what it has sown.

32 posted on 04/06/2016 2:27:13 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: jazusamo

We need to seriously consider shipping these 50 IQ apes one-way to North Korea. We can invite the entire population of Poland to replace them. If we run out of Poles, let’s invite the Finns. Finns are excellent riflemen, and they hate commies.

(See 1939 Winter War. http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/navalbattles1900today/p/winterwar.htm)


33 posted on 04/06/2016 3:17:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: jazusamo
"Millennials brush off Founding Fathers, overwhelmingly oppose free speech"

Hall's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

is being millennialized to:

I disapprove of what you say, and I will defend to your death my right to silence you.
34 posted on 04/06/2016 7:52:00 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: IronJack

>The Constitution — if upheld — is pretty clear.

Yes...IF.

>...there is no way a court can rule consistent with precedent that words that make the snowflakes uncomfortable or afraid are not protected.

You seem to forget ‘Wickard v. Filburn’, O’Care, Roe v. Wade, Brown v. and a plethora of other ‘pretty clear vis a vie Constitution’ rulings. On the flip you had those like A. Jackson and, to some extent Zero....”made the ruling, let them enforce it” mantra.

IOW, we are a L-O-N-G way away from where we started, and I wouldn’t trust govt, let alone a lawyer/judge, as far as I could throw Mt. Rushmore.


35 posted on 04/07/2016 5:00:25 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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So how does a court rule in direct opposition to an existing precedent? Yes, I know Brown overrode Plessey, but those rulings were some 70 years apart. The speech described in this article doesn't even pass a Brandenburg "imminent danger" test.

If "Piss Christ" and homosexual parades are protected under free speech arguments, then there is no way a court could consistently rule that conservative speech -- even racist, nativist, or homo-hating speech -- is not.

36 posted on 04/07/2016 6:40:14 AM PDT by IronJack
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>>So how does a court rule in direct opposition to an existing precedent?

Considering most precedent isn’t even grounded in the Constitution, I’d say it’s as easy as, “Just do it!”.

Course, every/most damn ‘grounded’ ruling rely upon flawed ‘reasoning’ (Wickard v.)

Does 100 yrs. of precedent make ‘gun control’ laws valid? Or Roe v. Wade or ...?


37 posted on 04/07/2016 7:51:24 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73
The precedent for gun control laws is restrictive, not permissive. When those restrictive gun control laws have been challenged, in many cases they've been struck down, thereby establishing precedents gun owners can build on to ensure future rights.

Even the most brazen liberal is going to have trouble explaining how free speech is free speech unless it's not. You can burn an American flag but you can't write "Go Trump" on a sidewalk? You can use taxpayer money to fund an "art" exhibition featuring a statue of the Virgin Mary made from dung, but you can't tell a pair of fags that they disgust you? You can invade a church service and throw condoms at the worshippers but you can't challenge the politically correct orthodoxy in a college classroom?

I don't think so.

38 posted on 04/07/2016 8:26:57 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

We’re debating that which is unconstitutional to begin: ‘gun control’, ‘safe zones’, ‘gay marriage’, etc.

The Left and the Courts, but I repeat myself, have NEVER had an issue using their personal opinion to create ‘law’ (just see the ‘gay marriage’ fiasco ruling).

Using your ‘more open’ ‘gun control’ suits still fails to take into account the clear/plain English of the 2nd: shall NOT be infringed; yet, laws still stand that allow many an infringement. Constitution trumps any ‘precedent’, yet is nary a basis for consideration.

Sorry, but to say “Don’t think so” flies in the face of what already IS. One only need look at the current thought crimes and cries of ‘Islamaphobia’...these are not getting more permissive, they are getting *restrictive* by the day!


39 posted on 04/07/2016 9:05:03 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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One need only look at the laws regarding constitutional carry, and one can see that our Second Amendment rights are being restored -- using the force of the courts -- every day.

You're too pessimistic for my tastes.

Almost none of the rights guaranteed under the Constitution are absolute. Free speech can be limited, as can freedom to assemble, freedom of religion, protection from search and seizure, habeus corpus, and a host of others. However, historically there has been a tremendous burden on the government to permit qualification of those rights. No such compelling circumstances exist when the only consequence is some precious snowflakes feewings being hurt.

40 posted on 04/07/2016 9:25:44 AM PDT by IronJack
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