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Shocker: Sanders Supporters Want Free Stuff From Government,
Townhall.com ^ | April 17, 2016 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 04/17/2016 3:43:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

Typical leftists–they want free stuff, but they don’t want to pay for it. In a poll conducted by Vox and Morning Consult during the first week in April, they found that supporters for Sen. Bernie Sanders unsurprisingly have strong support for things like free college tuition and universal health care. They register at 70+ percent in favor for both initiatives. Then, the question turns to how much are they willing to pay for Sanders' agenda. This is where support dips dramatically, especially when two in three Bernie-ites don’t want to pay more than $1,000 for a single-payer health care system. Furthermore, the amount that Sanders supporters are willing to pay for this socialist utopia doesn’t cover the costs that this disheveled democratic socialist has in store for the country (via Vox):

About 66 percent of Sanders supporters said they wouldn't be willing to pay more than an additional $1,000 in taxes for universal health care. This includes the 8 percent of Sanders supporters who aren't willing to pay anything at all.

When we asked what percentage of their income they would pay, rather than a dollar figure, voters seem to be a bit more generous.

While half of Sanders supporters said they aren't willing to pay or that they're only willing to pay less than 5 percent of their income, a quarter said they would pay between 5 and 10 percent.

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Sanders supporters are far and away the most likely to want free public college tuition. Still, 14 percent said they don't want to pay additional taxes for it — and another half said they would only pay up to $1,000 a year

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Sanders's plan would put an additional $5,000 of federal tax liability on households earning $50,000, but in exchange he would nationalize vital services currently in the private sector.

That means at least some of the money we're now paying private companies would be paid to the federal government instead.

But the majority of Sanders supporters in our poll (much less all voters) aren't willing to pay enough to actually support those nationalized services.

It’s the classic case we see often in these top-down, controlled economic experiments. The costs are too great and the system eventually collapses due to lack of money. This economy, where vital services are completely in the hands of government, has been a total disaster for other countries. Just look at Greece. Yet, it does undercut the one of the main points pushed by Sanders on the campaign trail, which is that he is at the head of a political revolution that seeks to make America fairer by destroying the job creating and investing class and usurping a corrupt campaign finance system that Democrats have used to win back-to-back presidential elections. It’s hard to say this with this poll data that shows his most ardent backers don’t want to pay for anything he’s promising; they just want it. Moreover, it’s hard to say that we’re seeing the vestiges of some left wing swell in American politics when you can’t win in the South. It’s not a revolution then–it’s just some senior citizen saying what dumb college students want to hear. Alas, that’s the core of Sanders’ base­: young, college-educated whites. That’s not really earth shattering, especially when you consider that Democrats have been losing the white vote nationally since the 1960s. Still, funny to see how the political left wants a ton of stuff from the government, but has no desire to pay for it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2016election; arkansas; barneyfrank; berniesanders; collegetuition; education; election2016; freemarkets; hillary; hillaryclinton; hitlery; leaches; massachusetts; newyork; publiceducation; socialistscum; vermont; wipewater
The rest of the title is But They Don’t Want To Pay For It
1 posted on 04/17/2016 3:43:56 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

When will these idiots ever learn that stuff from the government means stuff from taxpayers?


2 posted on 04/17/2016 3:46:30 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Kaslin

A liberal’s paradise would be a place where everybody has guaranteed employment, free comprehensive healthcare, free education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free utilities and only law enforcement personnel have guns. And, believe it or not, such a liberal utopia does indeed exist. ... It’s called prison.


3 posted on 04/17/2016 3:48:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: odawg

And when there are no taxpayers, then what? Bernie’s fans never think of that question. It’s too unsettling.


4 posted on 04/17/2016 3:50:27 PM PDT by henkster
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To: Kaslin

I don’t see any difference between the Bernie Sanders supporters and the old plantation owners.


5 posted on 04/17/2016 3:50:49 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin

Where I come from, you don’t pay for stuff that’s free. Duh!


6 posted on 04/17/2016 3:52:34 PM PDT by Misterioso (Jihadists are driven by the Prophet motive.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Socialism is, at its core, an immoral system. It is nothing more than slaveholding by proxy; the takers don't own the makers directly, they do it indirectly through the agency of the government.

The government becomes, in essence, the overseer.

7 posted on 04/17/2016 4:05:47 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Post-highschool education doesn't cost too much because it isn't 'free' -- it costs too much because it is too expensive, IOW, wages are too high, and quality of education is not merely an afterthought it is of no importance to the jokers making up the machinery.
Apparently Grand Haven, Michigan has been introducing online learning at the high school level, an idea that can and should transform public education.
8 posted on 04/17/2016 4:08:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Kaslin
I know a great pct. of Dems are takers, but I'd say 90% of Sanders supporters are bone ignorant about virtually any important subject you can name affecting the nation. And to be honest, most other subjects.

Certainly, 99% have no idea how an economy actually works. The one percent who may have taken an economics course in college most likely had a Marxist prof.

9 posted on 04/17/2016 4:19:13 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: SkyDancer
Oh how true indeed.

Post Scriptum, nice about page!!!!

10 posted on 04/17/2016 4:20:27 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: Kaslin
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11 posted on 04/17/2016 4:24:35 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: odawg
When will these idiots ever learn that stuff from the government means stuff from taxpayers?

Part of the reason they don't learn that is because they do not pay any taxes. Most of Bernie's supporters probably get a nice check in the mail courtesy of the EITC while fools like me have to send money in next week to fund it.

The way taxes are withheld from employees in this country is perhaps the most malevolent and devious scheme ever devised. The masses do not have the money in their hand only to have it ripped away on a later date, and instead it is paid directly from the employer to the government. If it were not that way...
12 posted on 04/17/2016 4:35:00 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: odawg

Never. They think a checkbook with plenty of checks is real money, just like I did when I was 5 years old.


13 posted on 04/17/2016 4:37:00 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: progunner

Thank you. Had some help from FReepers here teaching me.


14 posted on 04/17/2016 4:39:02 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Kaslin

My dumbass brother and sister want everyone who can afford to support them to do it.

If you make more money than you need, you OWE it to them to pay their way so they don’t have to work as hard as you have, sacrifice as much as you have or to have put as much on the line as you have to be successful.

I have nothing to do with either of them. Ten years now. I wish them luck with their welfare mentality.


15 posted on 04/17/2016 5:58:25 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Kaslin

It just proves most people don’t want socialism if they have to pay for it.


16 posted on 04/17/2016 6:59:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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