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College Football lawsuit over sex "assault"
New York Post ^ | April 23, 2016 | Editorial

Posted on 04/25/2016 1:39:12 PM PDT by mad puppy

Grant Neal is suing Colorado State University-Pueblo for kicking him out over sex that the woman agrees was fully consensual. More important, he’s also suing the federal Education Department for virtually ordering the school to deprive him of his due-process rights.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assault; college; grant; pueblo; rapehoax; uva
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My kid played football with Grant. His life is royally screwed up over this and there is nothing he can do but file a law suit. Completely stupidity.
1 posted on 04/25/2016 1:39:12 PM PDT by mad puppy
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To: mad puppy

How did schools become the primary investigative unit of a crime? They are all attended by adults. You might as well be prosecuted by your employer.


2 posted on 04/25/2016 1:42:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: mad puppy

I read the story:

1. He says it was consensual.

2. She is of age, says its was consensual, that he’s a good guy, and she filed no complaint.

3. Apparently a jealous co-worker noticed a hickey and reported it.

4. The school and everyone ignores the testimony of the victim-who-says-she-is-not-a-victim.

Take away: women are not capable of consenting to sex.


3 posted on 04/25/2016 1:48:23 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: mad puppy

Colleges encourage free and unrestrained sex in order to make the students break free of the shackles of the moral system they learned from their parents and church. This is the natural consequence.


4 posted on 04/25/2016 1:48:29 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: mad puppy

Didn't call her. She got upset.

5 posted on 04/25/2016 1:48:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: mad puppy

Colorado State University-Pueblo claims Women are Incapable of making decisions on Sex. Should be banned from Voting also

That’s what I got out of it at least


6 posted on 04/25/2016 1:55:48 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: gaijin

“Didn’t call her. She got upset.”

Did you even read the article?

She’s not upset. She didn’t complain.

She says he’s innocent, a nice guy, and getting railroaded.


7 posted on 04/25/2016 1:57:23 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: mad puppy

Just another reason for young men not to engage in casual sex


8 posted on 04/25/2016 1:58:04 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: DesertRhino

The school is being dictated too by the Feds who, rather than using their brain, have put in a zero-tolerance policy and washed their hands.

If Neal had actually raped her, he’d be in jail and this would be over, but he did NOT do anything wrong.

Some where his name is on a list and there is no recourse for him to correct what is really a very simple situation. If colleges kicked out every guy that had sex with a co-ed, there would be a lot more room in the dorms.

Mean-while, this kids life is completely trashed. Very sad deal.


9 posted on 04/25/2016 2:00:10 PM PDT by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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Here’s a much more detailed summary.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/04/19/csu-pueblo-grant-neal-suspension-consensual-sex/

This is absurd.


10 posted on 04/25/2016 2:02:31 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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He needs to look at transferring to Baylor. A sexual assault on one’s record is a plus to the athletic department there. University of Kansas might also be on his short list.


11 posted on 04/25/2016 2:02:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: mad puppy

This is happening all over the country. These Title IX “investigators” are totally out of control. Kangaroo court.


12 posted on 04/25/2016 2:04:23 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Nifster

Certainly college football players who apparently have no rights. If he wasn’t a sports guy... no one would have noticed or cared.


13 posted on 04/25/2016 2:04:54 PM PDT by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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To: lodi90

perhaps the world needs grilled kangroo

the American way is out of control

a reversion to older means of dealing with out of control leaders is needed


14 posted on 04/25/2016 2:11:24 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: mad puppy

Frankly I wish more young men were taught that casual sex is a bad idea. Athlete or not. It is not the way to treat the woman you hope to be the mother of your children.


15 posted on 04/25/2016 2:17:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Sure, but it’s every FReeper’s God given right to comment on an article before reading it.

sometimes to comment before reading the title :)


16 posted on 04/25/2016 2:24:33 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Nifster

I would add that young women should be taught to avoid casual sex as well; athlete or not. That is just not the world we currently live in and destroying this young man’s life because he engaged on consensual sex is 100% dumb.


17 posted on 04/25/2016 2:27:57 PM PDT by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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To: DesertRhino

Because the Federal government has enchained them with Title IX. Several years ago the federal bureaucrats unilaterally reinterpreted Title IX to cover sexual assaults, and informed the schools that they needed to hold these hearings BEFORE notifying law enforcement (even if reported assaults didn’t happen at the school). If the schools disobey that instruction, they will lose their federal funding for violating Title IX.

Here’s the “Dear Colleague” letter that led to all of this:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/dear_colleague_sexual_violence.pdf


18 posted on 04/25/2016 2:40:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Nifster

Not even casual hickeys, apparently.


19 posted on 04/25/2016 2:40:58 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: mad puppy

I agree that young women should be taught the same thing.


20 posted on 04/25/2016 2:52:20 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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