Posted on 05/20/2016 12:40:15 PM PDT by Kaslin
Pieces of luggage, human remains, wreckage and what could be a tell-tale oil slick were found early Friday in the Mediterranean Sea where an EgyptAir passenger plane went down a day earlier, according to officials.
The first physical clues to the crash of Flight 804, which carried 66 passengers, crew and security officers, surfaced about 190 miles off the coast of the Egyptian city of Alexandria. Reports of debris being found on Thursday proved false, but the verified debris field could bring authorities closer to the all-important flight data recorder, which could provide insight into what caused the crash.
An EgyptAir official said midday Friday that wreckage of the missing plane has been found, including body parts, luggage and passengers' seats. The announcement came hours after a Greek official also reported evidence being found.
"A short while ago we were briefed by the Egyptian authorities... on the discovery of a body part, a seat and baggage just south of where the aircraft signal was lost," Defense Minister Panos Kammenos told reporters in Athens, according to Reuters.
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Shades of EgyptAir Flight 990, on which co-pilot Gamil el-Batouty in 1999 dove the New York to Cairo flight into the ocean just off New England. Killed 217.
That particular Airbus is subject to detachment of the rudder if full rudder is suddenly given at above a certain airspeed. This does not mean it is a bad aircraft.
If a Jihadist pilot wanted to take an aircraft down this is the way to do it. A high speed rudder input could account for the initial 90 degree turn, which would follow with the loss of the vertical stabilizer and a uncontrolled spiral dive of which it would be impossible to recover. If this happened we will find at least one and perhaps both turbines detached from the aircraft and some distance from the main wreckage.
1. Give full rudder input and yaw the aircraft to maximum
2. Give the opposite full rudder input
This will swing the aircraft past the critical point of structural failure and the vertical stabilizer will detach. Game over.
I beatd the news report it as a forty mile debris field.
It was a bomb. I don’t care what any official agency says
Not sure if its true but a boat in the area saw a fireball..that headline was on Drudge yesterday
And loss of the vertical stabilizer will initiate an unrecoverable spin? Why?
Oh I love that sign!!!!
Possibility of fire aboard Egypt Air flight raised as body parts, debris found in Mediterranean
As pieces of luggage, human remains, wreckage and what could be a tell-tale oil slick were found early Friday in the Mediterranean Sea, one aviation expert said telemetry received by satellites from the doomed plane suggested a fire could have started onboard, knocking out computers and control mechanisms.
David Learmount said the fire could have started in the plane's avionics compartment. Such a scenario could indicate an electrical fire, and not terrorism, brought down Egypt Air flight 804 on Thursday.
If the plane broke apart when doing 360 degree turns at altitude, and then bodies fell a few miles from sky?
The only thing that keeps the aircraft stable relative to forward flight is the vertical stabilizer. That is why it is called the vertical stabilizer. When an aircraft "yaws" left or right the vertical stabilizer gives a counter active correction and thus assumes stable flight. Without this vertical stabilizer the aircraft is inherently unstable. It will without doubt spin in as this become the "stable flight form" without the vertical stabilizer. At this point the pilot is helpless. It is going in!
It should be noted that the B2 Stealth bomber has no vertical stabilizer and is horribly unstable in flight. It can only fly because of the flight computer that inputs corrections to the instability in fractions of a second. A human pilot could not do this. The pilot flies the plane but the computer keeps it stable in flight via rapid micro corrections on the wings control surfaces.
Captain Al Haynes flew United 232 without any control surfaces, including yaw, when he lost the hydraulics. He used differential thrust to "steer" the DC-10. However, he did not lose the vertical stabilizer entirely.
I'm sure a spinning aircraft has little pitch stability, but I'm trying to understand why it would immediately nose down and plunge to earth.
I think for an object of such mass falling from such altitue, the effect of hitting water would be no different than hitting asphalt.
Yes they blowed it up real good.
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I hope they'll be able to retrieve the CVR, too, where NSTB investigators heard either pilot of MS990 saying shahada as the 767 plunged in to steep dive?
Things have changed since 9-11, huh? Not that we taught when just starting from PPL, with so many mujahadin's masquareeding as refugees I hope we won't see here in America commercial flights also just exploding in the skies soon.
At the first sign of smoke or fire the pilots would have put out a mayday call.
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