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The coming debt bust [China’s financial system]
Economist ^ | May 7th 2016

Posted on 05/21/2016 6:38:20 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

China’s financial system

The coming debt bust

It is a question of when, not if, real trouble will hit in China

May 7th 2016 | From the print edition

Timekeeper

CHINA was right to turn on the credit taps to prop up growth after the global financial crisis. It was wrong not to turn them off again. The country’s debt has increased just as quickly over the past two years as in the two years after the 2008 crunch. Its debt-to-GDP ratio has soared from 150% to nearly 260% over a decade, the kind of surge that is usually followed by a financial bust or an abrupt slowdown.

China will not be an exception to that rule. Problem loans have doubled in two years and, officially, are already 5.5% of banks’ total lending. The reality is grimmer. Roughly two-fifths of new debt is swallowed by interest on existing loans; in 2014, 16% of the 1,000 biggest Chinese firms owed more in interest than they earned before tax. China requires more and more credit to generate less and less growth: it now takes nearly four yuan of new borrowing to generate one yuan of additional GDP, up from just over one yuan of credit before the financial crisis. With the government’s connivance, debt levels can probably keep climbing for a while, perhaps even for a few more years. But not for ever.

(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinacrisis; chinadebt; debt; financialcrisis; stockmarket
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1 posted on 05/21/2016 6:38:20 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

P!


2 posted on 05/21/2016 6:39:08 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for posting!


3 posted on 05/21/2016 6:40:42 PM PDT by datura
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Gird your loins all. It's gonna be bad, but a correction is coming and it's going to hurt. If Trump wins the world banks will let it all crumble to show "it's not socialism's fault."


4 posted on 05/21/2016 6:45:39 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I continue to be amazed that virtually every country in the world seems to be deeply in debt. It doesn’t seem possible, and yet here we are.


5 posted on 05/21/2016 6:45:47 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Nation States seem to be ending. The follow-on should not be Globalism, but Localism.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There are an abnormal number of gloom and doom reports out over the past couple of weeks.

But, it seems like we keep pulling the rabbit out of the hat. I’ve played on teams like that. In the end, the luck runs out. Cinderella is a fairy tale.

I wonder when this streak will really end?


6 posted on 05/21/2016 6:46:28 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who dies)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

- Real economy in Depression?

The Stock Market Soars

- Real unemployment at 22%?

The Stock Market Soars

- Debt at critical levels?

The Stock Market Soars

- Retail implosion?

The Stock Market Soars

The Fed made a decision to prop up the Stock Market, no matter what. Rounds of QE. ZIRP. Free cash.

What they have done is pack tons of explosive TNT into our economy and hope that no one notices.

7 posted on 05/21/2016 7:22:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

How about you just say Chinese instead of a racial hate word!


9 posted on 05/21/2016 8:45:07 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
America would be better off with more chinks and less Americans.

You're on the wrong website, you racist, American-hating scum bucket!

10 posted on 05/21/2016 9:06:09 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian
American-hating scum bucket!

Come now, I want what's best for America. Since the chinese are smarter than Americans, America would be better off populated by Chinese. Who needs dumb people when you can have smart people with astronomical SAT scores?

11 posted on 05/21/2016 9:08:28 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Delightful propaganda from those London gangsters...er, bankers.


12 posted on 05/21/2016 9:54:37 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yea, and it’s not like the a**holes running them all just coincidentally didn’t happen to notice any of the dozens of instances this didn’t work out in even just the last 100 years or so...


13 posted on 05/21/2016 10:39:04 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

MF estimates that 15% of Chinese loans to nonfinancial corporations are at risk. With nonfinancial corporations’ debt currently standing at 150% of GDP, the book value of the bad loans could be a quarter of national income.
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/china-bad-loan-solutions-by-barry-eichengreen-2016-05


14 posted on 05/22/2016 1:37:33 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith
Japanese bad debts have gradually accumulated over a long period of time. Chinese debts, in contrast, are rising sharply in less than a decade. I think they are rapidly depleting their financial resources.

In current situation, the threat of punitive tariffs by Trump would really hurt.

15 posted on 05/22/2016 1:49:47 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Chinese should go for a consumer society as soon as possible, as it is impossible to increase the export. http://www.mauldineconomics.com/editorial/friedman-germany-has-a-bigger-problem-than-refugees


16 posted on 05/22/2016 2:27:46 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

MF => IMF


17 posted on 05/22/2016 2:28:09 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
More about the lack of money;

the son of the Saudi king said that Saudi Arabia was interested in selling part of the state-owned oil firm Saudi Aramco. The only reason to put this on the table is that the Saudis need money badly

Exports constitute about 23 percent of China’s GDP. They make up almost 50 percent of Germany’s GDP and 30 percent of Russia’s. In Saudi Arabia, it’s 52 percent. However, in Japan it’s 16 percent. And, in the United States, exports are only 13.5 percent of GDP and only about 8 percent is attributed to countries outside of NAFTA. When we look at the export levels, we are measuring a nation’s vulnerability to the international system.

http://www.mauldineconomics.com/this-week-in-geopolitics/the-eurasian-storm

18 posted on 05/22/2016 2:37:26 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith
go for a consumer society as soon as possible

It won't help staving off impending debt crisis. Such a transformation won't happen overnight. I don't believe China has enough money to burn to hold debt crisis in check until it becomes a full consumer society, and generate enough earnings to pay down all debts accumulated along the way.

19 posted on 05/22/2016 2:39:26 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I agree that it will take time, thus they should start as soon as possible. But, it will be a debt crisis in any case.

Here are more vulnerable countries:

Exports of goods and services (% of GDP)

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS


20 posted on 05/22/2016 2:44:15 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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