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Trump and global warming: Americans are failing risk management
UK Guardian ^ | June 8, 2016 | by Dana Nuccitelli

Posted on 06/08/2016 4:53:33 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Currently, about 40% of Americans support Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, and about 40% of Americans are not worried about global warming. While short of a majority, this is a substantial fraction of the American public failing to grasp the risks associated with a Donald Trump presidency and potentially catastrophic climate change impacts.

The threat of catastrophic climate change isn't as tangible as a burning house, car accident, or lung cancer. Americans tend to view climate threats as distant in both time and space.

We can only hope that the fraction of Americans failing to grasp the immense risks associated with a Donald Trump presidency and unabated global warming don't grow to become a majority within the next 5 months.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; election2016; hoax; socialism
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1 posted on 06/08/2016 4:53:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More junk science.


2 posted on 06/08/2016 4:54:46 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LOL
i am sure the brits will have their minds/heads taken off of climate change by the islamic jihadis in the near future... idiots who put up with a monarchy / parlaiment and socialism / national health care deserve what they get....


3 posted on 06/08/2016 4:57:30 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When Obama leaves office the seas will rise!!


4 posted on 06/08/2016 4:57:55 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Salvey

What terrifies me is how prolific is this cult. It’s not so much the people but the absolute brainwashing they’ve endured at the hands of a compliant and adoring media.

Anthropogenic global warming has been disproven across numerous fields of study, but they cling with every last inch of their lives to the notion that we’re all going to die and that the world is going to turn into some Biblical flood-type planet. To boot, it’s one of the best kept cons in history as they continue to refer back to studies that have long since been shown to be false and outright made up.

Now we have media darlings like the Weather Channel naming winter storms and absolutely salivating at the idea of naming a tropical storm as if it’s some sort of proof of global warming.


5 posted on 06/08/2016 4:59:27 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

6 posted on 06/08/2016 5:00:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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7 posted on 06/08/2016 5:00:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The idea that a bunch of windmills and no coal can change the climate is ridiculous. It’s all about marketing not saving the universe.


8 posted on 06/08/2016 5:02:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Travis McGee

Dude! You owe me a new keyboard (as he wipes the coffee off his monitor). Some of folks in my Squadron thought I finally lost it. Thanks for the Hump Day Humor!


9 posted on 06/08/2016 5:10:01 AM PDT by KC-10A BOOMER (Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“We can only hope that the fraction of Americans failing to grasp the immense risks associated with a Donald Trump presidency and unabated global warming don’t grow to become a majority within the next 5 months.”

You can hope but you’d be better off re-educating yourself.

A Donald Trump presidency AND unabated global warming are both great things.


10 posted on 06/08/2016 5:12:52 AM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Seriously, you forgot the “Barf” tag. What a load of manure.


11 posted on 06/08/2016 5:15:53 AM PDT by GT Vander (Life's priorities; God, Family, Country. Everything else is just details...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Risk management is about doing things to reduce the risk. I may buy a backup server in case my primary server goes down. These people would suggest I buy one of these in case my web server suffers hardware failure.

They need to figure out how to mitigate the risk before lecturing us on ignoring the risk they claim is there. We can have discussions on mitigation even if we don't agree on risk. But there aren't any useful mitigations they want to talk about.
12 posted on 06/08/2016 5:17:52 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: Salvey

“More junk science.”

Anthropogenic global warming is not “junk science”. (Don’t blow a blood vessel, keep reading.)

It is clear that the gigatons of CO2 released into the atmosphere have some warming effect. That is very basic physics. I happen to be in the camp that thinks that such warming is not large, and can safely be ignored at least for now.

What has most on the right riled up are the proposed solutions to “catastrophic” warming. That’s the big problem.

The best approach is to pile R&D money into win-win technologies like solar and next-gen nuclear power. Once power generated by those methods is cheaper than coal (in particular) the “problem” goes away without wealth redistribution or the other zany ideas from the left. Plus there are the nice side benefits of less people dying from air pollution, and less mercury in the ocean. I like tuna.

I’m hopeful that LENR will come through and really solve our energy problems, but even if not there is no need for a scaled-down future with less energy consumption per capita, translating into a lower standard of living for almost everyone.

President Trump and solutions to global warming (whether or not it is a problem) are NOT mutually exclusive, and in fact represent a great future and opportunity going forward. Selling it this way could turn many global warming believers into conservatives.

Let the market work, get rid of onerous regulation, and we’ll have an energy-rich and better future.


13 posted on 06/08/2016 5:24:38 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Trump '16! Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: Travis McGee

That star on his(?) shirt makes a fine target... ;-)


14 posted on 06/08/2016 5:25:40 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Trump '16! Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe the supposed 60% who swallow this garbage hook, line, and sinker, can go and live in caves, cut off all Internet access as well as electricity and air conditioning, and then after a couple of generations come back and tell us how they saved the planet.

PffftHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

Let’s all return to feudal Europe, shall we? They didn’t worry about man-made global warming then, they were just worried about keeping themselves fed.

That’s what the elites REALLY want. They want to be the feudal lords and make the rest of us grovel at their feet, begging for food to be redistributed to us after they have had their fill.

Except feudalism in this case is the religion. Gaia worship. The Earth Mother. They will even take over Christianity when the time is right. MOTHER MARY = MARIA = MA-RHEA = MOTHER EARTH.


15 posted on 06/08/2016 5:26:42 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: zzwhale

That’s what I was thinking. They be better off worrying about their Muslim issues.


16 posted on 06/08/2016 5:33:52 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Salvey

While short of a majority, this is a substantial fraction of the American public failing to grasp the risks associated with reading Dana Nuccitelli.


17 posted on 06/08/2016 5:35:48 AM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“People are failing to price in the small risk that a Trump presidency could cause us to lose everything we value, and that scares the hell out of me.”

Talk about failure to understand risk management. The article uses the argument that the risk of fire is small but people still buy fire insurance. That is true, but they wouldnt buy it if the COST of fire insurance was 10X the cost of your house. What the GW tards wont tell you is the cost of fighting GW involves shutting down most of our power grid, bancrupting our economy, throwing countless millions of Americans out of work, and sending us back to the early 1900s. In other words the cure is worse than the disease, and the disease hasn’t even been definitively proven, nor has the efficacy of the cure.


18 posted on 06/08/2016 5:37:03 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Americans tend to view climate threats as distant in both time and space BS.
19 posted on 06/08/2016 5:37:10 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: PreciousLiberty

Read more into the Euro, especially the British blogs and articles about “catastrophic global warming” and you realize it is all about the implementation of a world government deriving it’s authority over the lives of every human being by issuing them a “resource ration.” The Brits will mention in just about every article the “profligate” per capita use of resources by the United States. Despite the ecological threats posed by most every other developing and industrializing country in the world, the focus always comes back to per capita use and how Americans need theirs reduced.

They are looking for a massive centralized government imposed ration on everyone. People subject to rationing are not free.


20 posted on 06/08/2016 5:39:50 AM PDT by henkster (Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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