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The Document Hillary Didn’t Delete: Hillary’s Suppressed Thesis on Her Marxist Mentor Saul Alinsky
Original research | 08/07/2016 | Fedora

Posted on 08/07/2016 11:06:05 AM PDT by Fedora

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To: Fedora

well, that BEAOOOOTCH !!


21 posted on 08/07/2016 12:36:11 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: rlmorel

It is the first item in the bibliography


22 posted on 08/07/2016 12:36:52 PM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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To: Fedora

ping


23 posted on 08/07/2016 12:39:22 PM PDT by The Westerner ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: rlmorel

https://archive.org/details/RulesForRadicals


24 posted on 08/07/2016 12:41:04 PM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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To: Fedora

That’s an excellent presentation, Fedora.

I find these parts especially interesting:
“When Schechter asked why, he was told that Hillary was working on health care now and she did not want to alienate Daniel Patrick Moynihan...”

“Rodham argued that Moynihan’s approach was an undemocratic imposition of legislation on the masses rather than the type of community-based empowerment Alinsky advocated.”

Seems to me that she wished to avoid exposure as a gross hypocrit, since her health care “solution” was nothing if not “undemocratic imposition of legislation on the masses”.

Her thesis and (arbitrary) conclusions also reveal the self-contradiction implicit in rejection of the “Alinsky model” in favor of making change through taking over government. Hillary’s model boils down to undemocratic imposition; she fine with that so long as she’s the imposer.


25 posted on 08/07/2016 12:41:27 PM PDT by Chewbarkah (o)
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To: Fedora

That’s an excellent presentation, Fedora.

I find these parts especially interesting:
“When Schechter asked why, he was told that Hillary was working on health care now and she did not want to alienate Daniel Patrick Moynihan...”

“Rodham argued that Moynihan’s approach was an undemocratic imposition of legislation on the masses rather than the type of community-based empowerment Alinsky advocated.”

Seems to me that she wished to avoid exposure as a gross hypocrite, since her health care “solution” was nothing if not “undemocratic imposition of legislation on the masses”.

The thesis also reveals the self-contradiction implicit in her rejection of the “Alinsky model” in favor of making change through taking over government. Hillary’s model boils down to undemocratic imposition; she just wants to be the imposer.


26 posted on 08/07/2016 12:48:33 PM PDT by Chewbarkah (o)
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To: Fedora

Thank you for the post. Bookmark.


27 posted on 08/07/2016 12:48:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Fedora

The Alinsky discussion is not just theoretical. Hillary and her followers actually implement the Rules for Radicals. Here’s an example. They use “shame” and “embarrassment” to induce guilt in order to make people do things they otherwise would not. Try saying something pro-Trump on Twitter. The next thing you know, 13,000 people start screaming “SHAME!” because the idea is that you can SHAME Trump supporters for not supporting Hillary and therefore make them support Hillary. This worked well for Obama, because of the race issue, and now they are using it for Hillary, re:gender. Here’s what works in opposition to the “SHAME!” tactic: RIDICULE. Try it, you’ll like it.


28 posted on 08/07/2016 12:51:46 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Ray76

LOL, I was looking for a link to Clinton’s er...ahem...”paper”. If it is anything like the pap written by Barack Obama like this below when he was in college, well...

BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY
By Barack Obama
March 10, 1983
The Sundial

Most students at Columbia do not have firsthand knowledge of war. Military violence has been a vicarious experience, channeled into our minds to television, film, and print.

The more sensitive among us struggle to extrapolate experiences of war from our everyday experience, discussing the latest mortality statistics from Guatemala, sensitizing ourselves to our parents war time memories, or incorporating into our framework of reality as depicted by a Mailer or a Coppola. But the taste of war-the sounds and chill, the dead bodies-are remote and far removed. We know that wars have occurred, will occur, are occurring, but bringing such experience down into our hearts, and taking continual, tangible steps to prevent war, becomes a difficult task. Two groups on campus, Arms Race Alternatives (ARA) and Students Against Militarism (SAM) work within these mental limits to foster awareness and practical action necessary to counter the growing threat of war. Through the emphasis of the two groups differ, they share an aversion to current government policy. These groups, visualizing the possibilities of destruction and grasping the tendencies of distorted national priorities, are throwing their weight into shifting America off the dead-end track.

“Most people my age remember well the air raid drills in school, under the desk with our heads tucked between our legs. Older people, they remember the Cuban missile crisis. I think those kinds of things left an indelible mark on our souls, so we are more apt to be concerned” says Don Kent, assistant director of programs and student activities at Earl Hall center. Along with the community Volunteer Service Center, ARA has been Don’s primary concern, coordinating various working groups of faculty, students, and staff members, while simultaneously seeking the ever elusive funding for programs.

“When I first came here two years ago, Earl Hall had been a holding tank for five years. Paul Martin (director of Earl Hall) and I discussed our interests, and decided that ARA would be one of the programs we pushed.” Initially, most of the work was done by non-student volunteers and staff. “Hot issues, particularly El Salvador, were occupying students at the time. Consequently, we cosponsored a lot of activities with community organizations like SANE (Students Against Nuclear Energy).”

With the flowering of the nuclear freeze movement, and particularly the June 12 rally in Central Park, however, student participation has expanded. One wonders whether this upsurge stems from young people’s penchant for the latest ‘happenings’ or from growing awareness of the consequences of nuclear holocaust. ARA Maintains a mailing list of 500 persons and Don Kent estimates that approximately half of the active members are students. Although he feels the continuity is provided by the faculty and staff members, student attendance at ARA sponsored events-in particular in November 11 convocation on the nuclear threat-reveals a deep reservoir of concern. “I think students on this campus like to think of themselves as sophisticated, and don’t appreciate small vision. So they tend to come out more for the events; they do not want to just fold leaflets.”

Mark Bigelow, a graduate intern from Union theological seminary who works with Don to keep ARA running smoothly, agrees. “It seems the students here are fairly aware of the nuclear problem, and it makes for an underlying frustration. We try to talk to that frustration.” Consequently, the thrust of ARA is towards generating dialogue which will give people a rational handle on this controversial subject. This includes bringing speakers like Daniel Ellsberg to campus, publishing fact sheets compiled by interested faculty, and investigating the possible development of an interdisciplinary program in the Columbia curriculum dealing with peace, disarmament, and world order.

Tied in with such a thrust is the absence of what Don calls “a party line.” By taking an almost apolitical approach to the problem, ARA hopes to get the university to take nuclear arms issues seriously. “People don’t like having their intelligence insulted,” says Don, “so we try to disseminate information and allow the individual to make his or her own decision.”

Generally, the narrow focus of the freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets. When Peter Tosh sings that “everybody’s asking for peace, but nobody’s asking for justice,” one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself. Mark Bigelow does not think so. “We do focus primarily on catastrophic weapons. Look, we say, here’s the worst part let’s work on that. You’re not going to get rid of the military in the near future, so lets at least work on this.”

Mark Bigelow does feel that the links are there, and points to fruitful work being done by other organizations involved with disarmament. “The freeze is one part of a whole disarmament movement. The lowest common denominator, so to speak. For instance, April 10-16 is Jobs for Peace week, With a bunch of things going on around the city. Also, the New York City Council may pass a resolution April calling for greater social as opposed to military spending. Things like this may dispel the idea that disarmament is a white issue, because how the government spends its revenue affects everyone.”

The very real advantages of concentrating on a single issue is leading the national freeze movement to challenge individual missile systems, while continuing the broader campaign. This year, Mark Bigelow sees the checking of Pershing II and Cruise missile deployment as crucial. “Because of their small size and mobility, their deployment will make possible arms control verification far more difficult, and will cut down warning time for the Soviets to less than 10 minutes. That can only be a destabilizing factor.” Additionally, he sees the initiation by the US of the Test Ban Treaty as a powerful first step towards a nuclear free world.

ARA encourages members to join buses to Washington and participate in a March 7-8 rally intended to push through the Freeze resolution which is making its second trip through the house. ARA will also ask United Campuses to Prevent Nuclear War (UCAM), an information lobbying network-based and universities, nationwide, to serve as its advisory board in the near future. Because of its autonomy from Columbia (which does not fund political organizations) UCAM could conceivably become a more active arm of disarmament campaigns on campus, though the ARA will continue to function solely as a vehicle for information and discussion.

Also operating out of Earl Hall Center, Students Against Militarism was formed in response to the passage of registration laws in 1980. An entirely student run organization, SAM casts a wider net than ARA, although for the purposes of effectiveness, they have tried to lock in on one issue at a time.

“At the heart of our organization is an anti-war focus”, says junior Robert Kahn, one of SAM’s fifteen or so active members. “From there, a lot of issues shoot forth-nukes, racism, the draft, and South Africa. We’ve been better organized when taking one issue at a time, but we are always cognizant of other things going on and collaborate frequently with other campus organizations like CISPES and REELPOLITIK.”

At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration, the law requires that all male students applying for federal financial aid submit proof of registration, or else the government coffers will close. Yale, Wesleyan, and Swarthmore have refused to comply, and plan to offer non-registrants other forms of financial aid. SAM hopes to press Columbia into following suit, though so far President Sovern and company seem prepared to acquiesce to the bill.

Robert believes students tacitly support non-registrants, though the majority did not comply. “Several students have come up to our tables and said that had they known of the ineffectiveness of prosecution, they would not have registered.” A measure of such underlying support is the 400 signatures on a petition protesting the Solomon Bill, which SAM collected the first four hours it appeared. Robert also points out that prior to registration, there were four separate bills circulating in the House proposing a return to the draft, but none ever got out of committees, and there have not been renewed efforts. An estimated half million non-registrants can definitely be a powerful signal.

Prodding students into participating beyond name signing and attending events is tricky, but SAM members seem undaunted. “A lot of the problem comes not from people’s ignorance of the facts, but because the news and statistics are lifeless. That’s why we search for campus issues like the Solomon Bill that have a direct impact on the student body, and effectively link the campus to broader issues.” By organizing and educating the Columbia community, such activities lay the foundation for future mobilization against the relentless, often silent spread of militarism in the country. “The time is right to tie together social and military issues,” Robert continues, “and the more strident the Administration becomes, the more aware people are of their real interests.

The belief that moribund institutions, rather than individuals are at the root of the problem, keep SAM’s energies alive. “A prerequisite for members of an organization like ours is the faith that people are fundamentally good, but you need to show them. and when you look at the work people are doing across the country, it makes you optimistic.”

Perhaps the essential goodness of humanity is an arguable proposition, but by observing the SAM meeting last Thursday night, with its solid turnout and enthusiasm, one might be persuaded that manifestations of our better instincts can at least match the bad ones. Regarding Columbia’s possible compliance, one comment in particular hit upon an important point with the Solomon Bill, “The thing that we need to do is expose how Columbia is talking out of two sides of its mouth.”

Indeed, the most pervasive malady of the collegiate system specifically, and the American experience generally, is that elaborate patterns of knowledge and theory have been disembodied from individual choices and government policy. What the members of ARA and SAM try to do is infuse what they have learned about the current situation, bring the words of that formidable roster on the face of Butler Library, names like Thoreau, Jefferson, and Whitman, to bear on the twisted logic of which we are today a part. By adding their energy and effort in order to enhance the possibility of a decent world, they may help deprive us of a spectacular experience-that of war. But then, there are some things we shouldn’t have to live through in order to want to avoid the experience.


29 posted on 08/07/2016 12:55:29 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Fedora

Fedora, you have contributed a huge good in the publishing of your terrific piece on der Hildebeast. I will pass it along to my friends.

The bottom line: Der Hildebeast deserves her nickname. She is a radical Communist.


30 posted on 08/07/2016 12:56:18 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

MSM?

One of the major influences of Alinsky groups was involve the news media in the planning and coverage of staged events.

It was new and the news media was not unified in how to deal with it. Alinsky activists were also ambivalent on how to use it. 60 minutes producers were at the avante garde of the planning of staged news events. 60 minutes had no respect or concern for the victims they portrayed. They also had a sophmoric sick sense of humor.

In the mid 70s in Chicago a 60 minutes producer had Bill Kurtis do an arson for profit story. Bill Kurtis is the model for Ted Baxter on Mary Tyler Moore, of course.

The real arson for profit story was Congressman Rostenkowski’s precinct captain Isadore Ganzer was responsible for 113 arsons in 93 of 97 buildings in a 2 block tract of land he was acquiring for the #2 Chicago boss Tom Keane.

But 60 minutes didn’t want to touch the real story. So they put a loose associate of the Latin Kings on camera against a white wall to tell how he set fire to a tavern at the request of the tavern owner.

All that despite the crowd of 500 screaming people at the meeting knowing nothing of that and screaming anti-Democrat Machine.

Then they edited the film to place Latin Disciples graffitti behind the shot of the Latin King. That, of course, created big friction between the two gangs that were both going political against the Democrat Machine.

This was typical of the Alinsky sympathetic media. They’d give the Alinsky group the media coverage. But change the story to keep the Democrat Machine happy also.

A couple years later, the friends of the Kings and Disciples who observed the way they were treated by the media and Democrat Machine united against the Machine and got Jane Byrne elected out of no where.


31 posted on 08/07/2016 12:56:28 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Fedora
The final paragraph is the most important:

The Current Relevance of Hillary’s Thesis

Clinton’s thesis reveals several important things that are relevant to the current election campaign. First, it documents that in her student days, she was a fellow traveler with Communists considered by the Johnson administration to be national security risks because of their role in promoting racial violence, a foreshadowing of the Democratic Party’s current deployment of Black Lives Matter. Second, it shows that Clinton equates democracy with a Marxist vision of a classless society, a philosophically fallacious view that founders on the fact of human diversity, and one hardly consistent with the bicameral premise of the United States Constitution that she is purportedly running to uphold. Third, it shows that Clinton’s ideology values power above rational negotiation and is willing to use violence to attain power. Finally, its reference to Marian Wright illustrates how Clinton has continued to associate with descendants of Alinsky’s radical network since her student days. Hillary was and is a dangerous radical, and like her mentor Alinsky, she is a rabble-rousing agitator of racial violence and a threat to national security.

32 posted on 08/07/2016 12:59:24 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Th association of Hillary (der Hildebeast Clinton) to Saul Alinsky is well told in Dinesh D'Souza's movie, Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party. The Left is turning up the flames to discredit this movie. I recommend that everyone see it. Bring a friend.
33 posted on 08/07/2016 1:01:57 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: JerseyDvl

Don’t just bookmark it. Put it in a word document and send it to your friends. It is time to out der Hildebeast for the communist she is. Like Alinsky, who worked for the Chicago mob, she is also a crook.


34 posted on 08/07/2016 1:03:57 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: Fedora; Ohioan; Pelham

I would imagine the average freeper lauds the freedom riders who invaded my southern homeland in the 50s and 60s from such lovely spots like Oberlin and Wellesley and Bard

See that acronym in the article

The STUDENT NONVIOLENT COORDINATING COMMITTEE which we called the SNVCC back then

They along with other commies were a big part of it

Yet the myths persist


35 posted on 08/07/2016 1:06:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (black lives kill....and kill....and kill.....like no other race today senselessly)
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To: Fedora

Excellent! Thank you for a very informative post.


36 posted on 08/07/2016 1:08:21 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Fedora

meh....communists never change their tactics or stripes


37 posted on 08/07/2016 1:08:35 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Fedora

To understand Alinskyites, it is helpful to understand the RESCUE TRIANGLE in which they operate. Transactional Analysis Psychology (Im OK, Youre OK and Games People Play) describes the Rescue Triangle of the
Opressor . . . . . . Rescuer

. . . . . .Victim

The traditional non-Alinsky social worker is the rescuer. The slumlord, the banker, the corporate titan is the Opressor.

The PEOPLE are the victims. The Alinsky goal is for the Victims to flip the game and oppress the former oppressors and make them the victims. The Rescuers don’t do traditional rescuing like social workers. The Alinsky organizers play the 3rd hand in the games people play of
LETS YOU AND HIM FIGHT and LETS PLAY A FAST ONE ON JOEY.

What is amazing is the people the Alinksy organizers designate the oppressor aka the personalized enemy have no clue that they are in the middle of a game that is going to get flipped. They see the game and think that only the others are in the game. The Ferguson Rescue Triangle is a good example of this.


38 posted on 08/07/2016 1:11:00 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Fedora

Bookmarked. Thanks for posting!


39 posted on 08/07/2016 1:29:22 PM PDT by datura
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To: Fedora

ping


40 posted on 08/07/2016 1:33:29 PM PDT by Taggart_D
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