Posted on 08/08/2016 6:43:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
Other models using the 3.0 liter diesel engine, too. Audi A6 for example.
In theory the test represents LA City traffic useage. In the real world, not everybody drives in LA City traffic 100% of the time. Nor did these academics do that. VW was wrong in that they did not meet the standards should their Diesel cars be driven in real world LA City traffic.
We purchased a VW Certified Pre-owned car, just 11 days before the cheating scandal was announced. Our motivation was low cost for high mileage. We were informed by massive VW Audi advertising for several years, that their diesels were “clean.”
Living in the once smog-filled greater Lost Angeles smog basin, we take clean air somewhat seriously, albeit not to the point of eco-extremism.
The upshot for us is: 1. We were deceived, and 2. We are stuck in limbo with a vehicle that will likely not be “repaired.”
Until such time as we can no longer operate it, we are going to drive the snot out of it, and enjoy 45 mpg highway.
Supposedly they will give us some cash, take the vehicle and scrap it. Too bad. It runs strong.
In terms of technology, Mercedes and BMW use Urea, while VW-Audi did not use Urea, so I am told. Varies from engine to engine.
I am convinced VW Group knowing made a calculated bet they would get away with this, and lost.
I have no doubt that management all the way to the very top knew full well what was going on. German car companies are technology driven.
This thread prompted me to look over the paperwork from VW, about my situation. In Sept. I purchased a 2013 Beetle TDI, loaded, with about 15,000 miles, as a Certified Pre-owned car. That meant the remainder of the original warranty, then more miles/years.
My options (the car now has over 29000 miles):
1. Keep it, let them repair the emissions shortcomings, and they will give me $6,700 for the grief the situation presents. I will still have to repay my loan balance, however.
2. Simply turn the car in, loan taken care of by VW. They give me $11,800.
They have already given me $1,000 of credit cards, extended the service period, etc.
We like the car, but my guess is that my wife will opt to unwind it, and start fresh with a different vehicle. The published mileage figures for the car are 30 city, 40 highway. Or driving is a mix, weighted to city.
Repairing the emission shortcomings will likely reduce the mileage and stifle the performance.
Even with the walk-away option, we might buy a repaired TDI in a different body style. Say Jetta/Golf wagon for example.
They have still not stated with certainty they will be able to repair them, to satisfy Calif/other standards.
Don’t take the offered ballon ride.
“Don’t take the offered ballon ride.”
Do you care to clarify that?
I am a car enthusiast. That is why we decided to try the TDI thing. Great mileage, cool minimalist vibe, etc.
The scandal knocked the enthusiasm out of it for us. We are inclined to be done with VW Group.
I have driven both a 2011 (191 HP) and 2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid and they are quite nice. The 2013 Camry Hybrids, I believe, started the latest model line that began to have more HP than the Fusion Hybrids. You gas mileage would wind up the same or better and your car would be more comfortable than the Jetta.
We test drove the 2014 Jetta and Passat TDI cars and liked them, but the hood on the Passat was freaking heavy to lift for a car. It seemed like wasted weight.
Sure, I am saying auto companies are notoriously cheap and would sooner see somebody drop than get a nickel in most cases.
Nitrogen oxides (NOx), not nitrous oxide (N20 aka laughing gas). No, they’re not an “actual pollutant.” They can react with volatile organic compounds to create smog. But if VOCs are controlled (and they are), additional NOx makes little to no difference in smog levels.
As Rush Limbaugh often says “follow the money.” Certain influential people are all-in on electric vehicles. Diesel technology competes with that, and has significant advantages over electric. It should be no surprise that lobbyists have gotten these absurd regulations passed.
So VW didn’t break the law?
Got it. haha
The USA watch dogs are agents of the United Auto Workers extracting revenge for the non union VW plant in Chattanooga Tennessee
The President is an evil tyrant using the government to destroy his personal enemies. History will wonder how he managed to survive his 8 years in office
Did you read what I wrote? That’s not what I said.
I’m suggesting the law is silly and is primarily designed to make diesels impossible to sell in the U.S.
LOL they cheated the emissions tests. That is some real cheatware :D
https://cheatware.net/
But companies will be companies and hack the game wherever they can.
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