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24 Years Ago Today the Federal Govt Changed its Rules to Launch a Sniper Attack on Off-Grid Family
Free Thought Project ^ | 8/21/2016 | Claire Bernish

Posted on 08/22/2016 6:10:48 AM PDT by HomerBohn

Randall and Vicki Weaver and their children wanted nothing more than to be left to live an isolated life in peace in their cabin enclave on a northern Idaho mountain top called Ruby Ridge. Untrusting of the federal government and of the belief society had taken an insurmountable turn for the worse, the Weavers — as many residents in the remote and breathtaking area — taught their children to be self-sufficient and defend themselves with firearms from unwanted intrusions onto the family’s property.

But the Weaver’s seemingly idyllic life came to an appallingly violent end over several hours from August 21 to 22, 1992, in a horrendously botched federal raid that would also profoundly alter perceptions about the U.S. government in the minds of even ordinary Americans.

Often afterward reported to be white supremacists, the Weavers considered themselves race “separatists” only — and intended no harm against others beyond that belief — though their stance often included the company of people with a more vehement ideology.

Regardless of the Weavers’ beliefs, the account of what federal agents perpetrated against the family under the premise of effecting law enforcement action implores Americans of every race to consider the telling outcome of untrammeled government power run amok.

In 1989, Randall “Randy” Weaver came under the scrutiny of federal agents intent on infiltrating sometimes-violent white supremacist organizations like the Aryan Nations — and eventually wound up charged for selling two illegal sawed-off shotguns to an undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms [now, also, explosives] (ATF).

Weaver, notably, claimed he had been set up — thus flatly refusing the government’s offer to drop the charges if he would turn informant, feeding the feds information about various Aryan Nations members — and was indicted in December the following year.

Though Weaver’s insistence about the set-up leaves his failure to show up for a scheduled court date in February 1991 an altogether open question, a clerical error marking that court date for March didn’t prevent authorities from issuing a warrant for his arrest.

Knowing the Weavers possessed a relative arsenal — which Randall, Vicki, and their children were well-trained how to use — agents weren’t entirely sure how to carry out the warrant and so began intense surveillance of the family’s mountain home while carefully formulating a plan of action.

During this period, Vicki reportedly penned several darkly but vaguely threatening letters to federal agents, containing phrases such as “the tyrant’s blood will flow.”

Considering the family originally relocated to their outpost over mistrust of the government coupled with Randall’s claims concerning the charges which ultimately generated the warrant, Vicki’s language is understandable.

Remember, whatever narrative about dangerous white separatists federal officials proffered about the Weaver family, Randall had only sold — under questionable circumstances — two sawed-off shotguns to a federal agent, and his failure to appear in court, for all intents and purposes, was the fault of the court clerk’s ultimately egregious error.

All in all, an isolationist family on a remote mountain hardly posed an imminent threat to anyone.

Nonetheless, federal marshals set in motion a plan in August 1992 that would send shockwaves across the country and around the world for its deadly ineptitude and wholly disproportionate use of force.

On August 21, marshals surprised Randall, his 14-year-old son Sammy, friend of the family Kevin Harrison, and the Weaver’s family dog, Striker, on a road near the family’s property. Though some of what happened next remains a matter of conjecture, the events mark a disturbing turn in the use of force for the purposes of an otherwise relatively innocuous warrant.

A fully camouflage-clad marshal shot and killed Striker — prompting Sammy to return fire at the group of marshals. Shots then rang out from both sides — in the end, both Sammy and U.S. Marshal Michael Degan lay dead. After the brief gun battle, Weaver and Harrison retreated to Ruby Ridge and marshals regrouped, bringing in FBI agents and setting up a sniper to watch movements on the property.

One of the most contentious aspects of following events concerned an abhorrently arbitrary relaxing of the FBI’s rules of engagement to handle the case.

Larry Potts headed the FBI’s criminal division and oversaw the deployment of the agency’s Hostage Rescue Team to break the standoff at Ruby Ridge — but in doing so, loosely nullified longstanding rules of engagement preventing agents from firing in anything other than self-defense. In doing so, Potts created a monstrously rogue agency capable of firing at will — and the results were expectedly disastrous.

Agents were ordered to shoot any armed man on sight — on the Weaver’s private property — and when Randall appeared with a weapon alongside his 16-year-ol daughter Sara and Harris, FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi opened fire, hitting Weaver in the arm.

Weaver, Harris, and Sara sprinted back to the safety of the cabin, but another shot from Horiuchi hit Vicki in the head, killing her as she clutched the couple’s 10-month-old daughter in her arms — but the bullet passed through her and also wounded Harris.

An incredibly tense 11-day standoff ensued, as the terrified survivors holed up in the Ruby Ridge home, but ended when mediators convinced Randall to turn himself in.

Horiuchi later claimed he had not been aware Vicki stood in the doorway when he fired the fatal shot. Though he was charged in 1997 with involuntary manslaughter for the killing of Vicki Weaver, a federal judge dismissed the charges the following year under the controversial alleged immunity of federal officers from state prosecution.

In 2001, a federal appeals court overruled that claim to immunity, stating federal officials who violate the U.S. Constitution can, indeed, be held accountable at the state level — but the Idaho prosecutor never pursued the manslaughter charge.

Randall and Harris both faced murder charges for the death of the federal marshall — but in a surprising move by an Idaho jury, all charges against them were dropped, save the original failure to appear charge against Weaver that generated the fateful warrant.

Surviving members of the Weaver family filed a wrongful death lawsuit, and in 1995, the patriarch received $100,000 and three of his daughters, $1 million each.

To this day, the grievous abuse of power fuels doubt in segments of the public about federal agencies’ ability to restrain itself in the use of unnecessary force disproportionate to putative threats.

Though the enormity of consequences of Ruby Ridge certainly echoed far into the future, the events have unfortunately sometimes been clouded by the Weaver family’s controversial ideologies. But those beliefs — as the families of countless other victims of a growing epidemic of state violence can attest — are of little consequence when the government acts with reckless impunity against a wide range of people from grossly different backgrounds.

Agents participating in and overseeing the siege of Ruby Ridge forced a sweeping internal investigation and concurrent reevaluation of policy — particularly due to the removal of imperative rules of engagement meant to protect civilians from the exact massacre that took place there.

And as is widely known, when the government receives the green light to abandon strictures protecting the public one time, it’s virtually guaranteed to happen again. As testament to this, the deadly and terroristic siege in Waco, Texas, by federal agents occurred shortly after the incident at Ruby Ridge.

On the 20th anniversary of her mother’s and brother’s murder by agents of the government, Sara Weaver poignantly recalled the harrowing details of her experience in an interview with the Associated Press — though she noted her father refuses to do the same. Losing her mother, who was indeed unarmed when she was killed, has been the most difficult aspect for Sara to come to terms with.

“We miss her terribly,” Sara lamented. “It never goes away.”

Despite the unprecedented mishandling, the payout to the surviving Weaver family, and the sh*tstorm of debate and controversy ensuing from the incident at Ruby Ridge, the government has never fully admitted any wrongdoing in the case.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: anniversary; atf; banglist; batf; centralsocialistgovt; fbi; randyweaver; rubyridge; vickiweaver
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Our central socialist government in its 'finest' hour. Then there was the Waco debacle where holes were punched into the building housing women and children, then it was set afire burning innocents alive.

Clinton's Reno sent troops in to hold Elian Gonzalez's family at gunpoint while they snatched the child to be given to Fidel Castro.

There's much, much more and events in the socialist government's hopper to degrade and punish citizens.

The government assassin, Lon Horiuchi went on to kill Branch Davidians at Waco.

America has one and the final chance to stem this evil central government and that is by electing Donald Trump president. It has been inconceivable to me that there are enough stupid citizens to elect a Hillary Clinton their (and our) president. Her election will absolutely be the worst action by a people who will end up enslaved.

1 posted on 08/22/2016 6:10:48 AM PDT by HomerBohn
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To: HomerBohn

Horiuchi was a Rambo scumbag IMO. It is too bad he got off scot free.


2 posted on 08/22/2016 6:13:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: HomerBohn
Following an April 18, 1992 fly-over by a helicopter for the Geraldo Rivera "Now It Can Be Told" TV show, U.S. Marshal Service HQ received media reports that Weaver had fired on the helicopter.[25] That day in Idaho, a U.S. Marshals team was installing surveillance cameras overlooking the Weaver property at the time of the fly-over. The field report for April 18, 1992 filed by Marshal W. Warren Mays reported seeing a helicopter near the Weaver property, but not hearing any shots fired.[26]

Weaver then granted an interview with a newspaper reporter in which he, family and friends present denied firing on the helicopter.[27] The helicopter pilot Richard Weiss eventually gave FBI FD-302 interviews denying that Weaver fired on his helicopter.[28]

The media reports that Weaver had fired on the Rivera helicopter became part of the justification later cited by USMS Wayne "Duke" Smith and FBI HRT Commander Richard Rogers in drawing up the Ruby Ridge Rules of Engagement on August 21–22, 1992. Also, in spite of Richard Weiss's repeated denials that shots had been fired at his helicopter, U.S. Attorney Ron Howen would charge that, as Overt Act 32 of the Weaver's Conspiracy Against the Federal Government, Randy, Vicki and Harris fired two shots at the Rivera helicopter.[29]



Whoraldo escalated the situation with his lie that he was fired upon.
3 posted on 08/22/2016 6:20:04 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

Whoraldo, like the ditzy Juan Williams, is a prize schmuck!


4 posted on 08/22/2016 6:22:21 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and Slinkys: Good for nothing but make you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: HomerBohn

These attacks by the federal government forces occurred during the Clinton reign of terror, with Janet Reno carrying out these atrocities on behalf of Pres. Clinton. Mrs. Clinton was in Austin, TX plotting with then TX Gov. Ann Richards the weekend before the attack on the Branch Davidian home in Waco. The fire set by the U.S. military burned to death 82 people including over 20 children. That blood is still on the Clinton’s hands. They should NEVER be allowed the power to destroy people who disagree with them again. But the Lord assures us, “Vengeance is mine. I will repay, says the Lord.” (Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19) And so we wait………..


5 posted on 08/22/2016 6:27:20 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Gaffer

mookabooker got a promotion.
He should be hanged along with ALL his bosses.


6 posted on 08/22/2016 6:27:35 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Go Trump, Give em hell BABY.)
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To: txrefugee

To be fair, Waco and Elian happened under Clinton (Reno) but Ruby Ridge was under GHW Bush.


7 posted on 08/22/2016 6:30:43 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: txrefugee

The attack on the Weavers at Ruby Ridge happened during George Bush I’s presidency.


8 posted on 08/22/2016 6:32:48 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Gaffer

What’s Lon doing these days.


9 posted on 08/22/2016 6:33:47 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Gaffer
Horiuchi

Lon Horiuchi is a cold blooded government assassin, he should never be forgiven or forgotten.

10 posted on 08/22/2016 6:34:31 AM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Yes All of them connected with Ruby Ridge and Waco are scumbags.


11 posted on 08/22/2016 6:34:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sailor76

I agree.


12 posted on 08/22/2016 6:35:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: HomerBohn

Oh but they’re just Whites! No need to be outraged over this. Whites enjoy White Privilege and it’s OK to shoot them when they are not threatening anybody. The outrage is reserved for blacks shot while they are threatening cops.


13 posted on 08/22/2016 6:37:32 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic Party’s press agency now: Robert Spencer.)
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To: meatloaf

I don’t know but a few years after this killer (IMO) retired I found some tactical website in ND or somewhere like that hawking him as their expert. It was then I embarked on a campaign to that company to tell them I wouldn’t buy a damn thing they sold because of Horiuchi and I told them I’d do my best to let everyone know the same.


14 posted on 08/22/2016 6:40:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: HomerBohn

“Lon Horiuchi”

A name that will live in infamy.

5.56mm


15 posted on 08/22/2016 6:40:59 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: HomerBohn

Bush was president then. GOP is no better than the others.


16 posted on 08/22/2016 6:43:18 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: meatloaf

goggle him, there is more out there than I would of guessed.


17 posted on 08/22/2016 6:51:48 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Poo poo the polls at Trump's peril.)
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To: HomerBohn

This one really is “Bush’s fault” and one of the reasons he didn’t get reelected.


18 posted on 08/22/2016 7:22:08 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Gaffer

I remember that. They dropped him like a hot rock.


19 posted on 08/22/2016 7:31:44 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Gaffer

Little different than gunning Levoy Finicum down in the snow in Oregon. The nature of the US govt never changes.


20 posted on 08/22/2016 7:34:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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