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Federal Register | Control of Communicable Diseases (CDC Quarantine rule changes)
Federal Register ^ | 08/15/2016 | CDC

Posted on 09/02/2016 8:15:31 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009

Federal Register | Control of Communicable Diseases (CDC Quarantine rule changes)

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2016/08/15/2016-18103/control-of-communicable-diseases#h-10

The Federal Register The Daily Journal of the United States Government Proposed Rule Control of Communicable Diseases

A Proposed Rule by the Health and Human Services Department on 08/15/2016

This document has a comment period that ends in 42 days (10/14/2016) Submit a formal comment

Publication Date:     Monday, August 15, 2016 Agency:     Department of Health and Human Services Dates:     Written or electronic comments on the NPRM must be received by October 14, 2016.

Action:     Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM). Shorter URL:     https://federalregister.gov/a/2016-18103 Related Topics     Communicable diseases     Quarantine Docket Number     CDC-2016-0068 Docket Name     Control of Communicable Diseases Docket RIN     0920-AA63

Notice Of Proposed Rulemaking (Nprm). Summary

Through this Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is amending its domestic (interstate) and foreign quarantine regulations to best protect the public health of the United States. These amendments are being proposed to aid public health responses to outbreaks of communicable diseases such as the largest recorded outbreak of Ebola virus disease (Ebola) in history, the recent outbreak of Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) in South Korea, and repeated outbreaks and responses to measles in the United States, as well as the ongoing threat of other new or re-emerging communicable diseases. The provisions contained herein provide additional clarity to various safeguards to prevent the importation and spread of communicable diseases affecting human health into the United States and interstate.


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KEYWORDS: aprehension; bigbrother; cdc; constitution; containment; detention; ebola; emergency; federal; health; internment; order; quarantine; reddawn
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Interesting update to US health quarantine rules. Appears to tighten 2005 rules defining apprehension, testing, quarantine, monitoring and interstate & foreign travel restrictions, and makes mention of declaration of health emergency federal orders.

Statements of note:

HHS/CDC recognizes that the right to engage in travel within the United States is a privilege of national citizenship protected by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the U.S. Constitution, as well as an aspect of liberty protected by the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. See Jones v. Helms, 452 U.S. 412, 418 (1981). However, this right is not unqualified and travel restrictions based on the threat posed by communicable diseases are valid. See Zemel v. Rusk, 381 U.S. 1, 15-16 (1965) (“The right to travel within the United States is of course also constitutionally protected . . . [b]ut that freedom does not mean that areas ravaged by flood, fire or pestilence cannot be quarantined when it can be demonstrated that unlimited travel to the area would directly and materially interfere with the safety and welfare of the area or the Nation as a whole.”). Furthermore, HHS/CDC will afford individuals subject to these travel restrictions with adequate due process through the previously mentioned written appeals process.

HHS/CDC requests public comment concerning the mandatory submission of crew and passenger manifests to HHS/CDC containing personally identifiable contact information for the purposes of conducting contact tracing. HHS/CDC specifically requests public comment on this proposed provision. In particular, HHS/CDC requests comment from the general public regarding whether they have any privacy concerns regarding the collection of the specified data elements proposed in this rule, the protection and maintenance of their personally identifiable information by HHS/CDC, and the disclosure of such identifiable information by the airlines and vessels to CDC during contact tracing.

1 posted on 09/02/2016 8:15:31 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
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To: MarchonDC09122009

CDC rule change measures include vaccination:

Agreement
HHS/CDC is proposing a definition for “agreement”
which refers to an agreement entered into between the CDC
and an individual expressing agreement between the parties
that the individual will observe public health measures
authorized under this part, as the CDC considers reasonably
necessary to protect the public’s health, including
quarantine, isolation, conditional release, medical
examination, hospitalization, vaccination, and treatment.
An explanation of the reasons for why HHS/CDC is including
a regulatory provision explicitly allowing for agreements
is discussed in detail in the preamble section explaining
proposed § 70.8. HHS/CDC believes that the proposed
definition is consistent with public health practice


2 posted on 09/02/2016 8:25:58 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

CDC Proposes Rule to Apprehend and Detain anyone, anywhere, at any time, for any duration, without Due Process or right of Appeal - and administer FORCED Vaccinations!

Based on CDC’s 8/15/16 publication of  ‘ Rules for the Control of Communicable Diseases’, the CDC is giving itself the power to forcibly apprehend healthy people  en masse, and detain them indefinitely with no process of appeal.

Kindly enough the CDC is giving the public until 10/14/2016 to comment on its new found extra-Constitutional power,

    “and whether there are any public concerns with the absence of a specific maximum apprehension period in the regulation.” 

Of course and as would be expected from a totalitarian unconstitutional power grab,

    “When an apprehension occurs, the individual is not free to leave or discontinue his/her discussion with an HHS/CDC public health or quarantine officer.” 

Moreover, the CDC also would like the public’s input on the fact their power is not limited to just individual persons but rather they could apprehend entire cities in mass if they so desired:

    “HHS/CDC specifically requests public comment on this proposed provision to issue Federal orders to entire groups rather than individuals.”

And as is to be expected since its impossible to give a medical examine to an entire city, the CDC would also like your comments on the fact

    “the proposed practice to issue Federal orders before a medical examination has taken place. “

For those wishing to give the CDC their requested comments on their new found powers, the link to make such comments can be found under the SOURCE links at the end of this article. Anyone who is interested would do well to read the CDC’s entire publication in the Federal Register.

The CDC’s claimed power follows these Stages:

    You (or your city) are declared “precommunicable”
    Apprehension and Detention [A&D]
    Order of Isolation, Quarantine, or Conditional Release

In stage 1:

    “CDC defines precommunicable stage to mean the stage beginning upon an individual’s earliest opportunity for exposure to an infectious agent”,

as previously indicated CDC does NOT need to give a medical exam to declare you (or your city) “precommunicable”. In fact, you may be perfectly healthy, unexposed, and uninfected. All that is required is for someone to say they suspect you (or your city) had a nebulous general and poorly defined “opportunity” for exposure.

Moreover, you don’t even get any due process to prove you had zero opportunity to be exposed until after CDC has proceeded on to Stage 3; The rub being the CDC can hold you (or your city) at Stage 2 indefinitely with no appeal by never proceeding to Stage 3. ie Do Not Pass Go, Go Directly To Jail.

In Stage 2:
CDC sneaks in its unlimited and unchecked authority. They’ve couched this authority by describing how they “generally” expect it to work in a temporary manner, but they’ve also clearly stated it is open ended and there is no discussion of due process in the A&D phase (again CDC wants your comments on this fact).

To see how CDC’s concept of unlimited city wide Apprehension and Detention would play out, watch CDC’s very own 2011 propaganda movieContagion. A movie basically written for and by the CDC to scare the public into funding them and showcase how their heroic dream response to an outbreak would unfold.

There is no onus on the CDC to end the Apprehension phase, or to proceed on to issuing orders of isolation, quarantine, or conditional release; As such you (or your city) can be held in apprehension and detention indefinitely.

In Stage 3:
IF an order of isolation, quarantine, or conditional release is issued, the CDC gives those so ordered one chance in the first 72 hours to ask CDC to change their minds, after which unlimited detention is again on the table.

The CDC can stop, detain, and jail you anywhere.

The other key factors of note is that the CDC does NOT limit this power to the international borders. CDC says it can take such actions any where in the USA based on a claim that every action affects interstate travel.

CDC claims it can set up check points at any bus or train station in the country, or at any location that might affect interstate travel.

CDC claims that the simple act of lining up at any CDC checkpoint gives them irrevocable authority to force you to be screened. “an individual’s refusal to be screened may result in quarantine, isolation, or conditional release” This could be in your car stuck in traffic at a CDC check point, a bus station, a taxi-stand, etc etc.

     “(holding that a passenger consents to an airport security search by presenting himself/herself for boarding and that such consent may not be revoked by simply walking away). Thus, in order to protect interstate travel from communicable disease threats, HHS/CDC intends for this section to apply broadly to all circumstances where individuals may queue with other travelers”

     “HHS/CDC believes that the rationale for airport security screenings may be extended to other forms of transportation, e.g., trains and buses, because of the similar “administrative” or special governmental need in preventing interstate communicable disease spread”

FORCED VACCINATION

    “CDC may enter into an agreement with an individual, upon such terms as the CDC considers to be reasonably necessary, indicating that the individual consents to any of the public health measures authorized under this part, including quarantine, isolation, conditional release, medical examination, hospitalization, vaccination, and treatment; provided that the individual’s consent shall not be considered as a prerequisite to any exercise of any authority under this part.”

Even though the CDC believes it can force all the above procedures on individuals and groups, it also uses “voluntary agreements” for the sole purpose of making forced actions easier to perform. Anyone breaking these “voluntary agreements”, even if they didn’t agree to them, is subject to criminal prosecution.

     “individuals who violate the terms of the agreement or the terms of the Federal order for quarantine, isolation, or conditional release (even if no agreement is in place between the individual and the government), he or she may be subject to criminal penalties”

Surprisingly, the one thing CDC’s left out of this rule making is the creation of the their own armed Federal Police Force to carry out these action; but it can’t be far off.

This is simple:  If any agency of any government tries to stop innocent, healthy people, without cause, without warrant and without charge, then tries to detain, quarantine or imprison you,  then what they are doing is unlawful denial of Constitutional rights.

Sources:

Control of Communicable Diseases: A Proposed Rule by the Health and Human Services Department on 08/15/2016

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1925


3 posted on 09/02/2016 8:31:44 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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Highly suggest fellow freepers and freedom minded citizens comment on this at the CDC site by 10/14/2016 deadline.

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2016/08/15/2016-18103/control-of-communicable-diseases#h-21

This is a huge assault on our liberty for the following reasons:

Your Comment Tracking Number: 1k0-8rof-4snp
Your comment may be viewable on Regulations.gov once the agency has reviewed it.
This process is dependent on agency public submission policies/procedures and processing times.
Use your tracking number to find out the status of your comment.

Your comment:
Comment: Based on CDC’s 8/15/16 publication of ‘ Rules for the Control of Communicable Diseases’, the CDC is giving itself the power to forcibly apprehend healthy people en masse, and detain them indefinitely with no process of appeal, for its new found extra-Constitutional power:

“and whether there are any public concerns with the absence of a specific maximum apprehension period in the regulation.”

“When an apprehension occurs, the individual is not free to leave or discontinue his/her discussion with an HHS/CDC public health or quarantine officer.”

CDC power is not limited to just individual persons and could apprehend entire cities in mass if they so desired:

“HHS/CDC specifically requests public comment on this proposed provision to issue Federal orders to entire groups rather than individuals.”

The CDC’s claimed power follows these 3 Stages:
You (or your city) are declared “precommunicable”
Apprehension and Detention [A&D]
Order of Isolation, Quarantine, or Conditional Release

In stage 1:

“CDC defines precommunicable stage to mean the stage beginning upon an individual’s earliest opportunity for exposure to an infectious agent”,

CDC does NOT need to give a medical exam to declare you (or your city) “precommunicable”. In fact, you may be perfectly healthy, unexposed, and uninfected. All that is required is for someone to say they suspect you (or your city) had a nebulous general and poorly defined “opportunity” for exposure.

There is NO due process to prove you had zero opportunity to be exposed until after CDC has proceeded on to Stage 3; The CDC can hold you (or your city) at Stage 2 indefinitely with no appeal by never proceeding to Stage 3.

In Stage 2:
CDC sneaks in its unlimited and unchecked authority. They’ve couched this authority by describing how they “generally” expect it to work in a temporary manner, but they’ve also clearly stated it is open ended and there is no discussion of due process in the Apprehension & Detention phase.

There is no onus on the CDC to end the Apprehension phase, or to proceed on to issuing orders of isolation, quarantine, or conditional release; As such you (or your city) can be held in apprehension and detention indefinitely.

In Stage 3:
IF an order of isolation, quarantine, or conditional release is issued, the CDC gives those so ordered one chance in the first 72 hours to ask CDC to change their minds, after which unlimited detention is again on the table.

The CDC can stop, detain, and jail you anywhere.

The other key factors of note is that the CDC does NOT limit this power to the international borders. CDC says it can take such actions any where in the USA based on a claim that every action affects interstate travel.

CDC claims it can set up check points at any bus or train station in the country, or at any location that might affect interstate travel.

CDC claims that the simple act of lining up at any CDC checkpoint gives them irrevocable authority to force you to be screened. “an individual’s refusal to be screened may result in quarantine, isolation, or conditional release” This could be in your car stuck in traffic at a CDC check point, a bus station, a taxi-stand, etc etc.

“(holding that a passenger consents to an airport security search by presenting himself/herself for boarding and that such consent may not be revoked by simply walking away). Thus, in order to protect interstate travel from communicable disease threats, HHS/CDC intends for this section to apply broadly to all circumstances where individuals may queue with other travelers”

“HHS/CDC believes that the rationale for airport security screenings may be extended to other forms of transportation, e.g., trains and buses, because of the similar “administrative” or special governmental need in preventing interstate communicable disease spread”

FORCED VACCINATION

“CDC may enter into an agreement with an individual, upon such terms as the CDC considers to be reasonably necessary, indicating that the individual consents to any of the public health measures authorized under this part, including quarantine, isolation, conditional release, medical examination, hospitalization, vaccination, and treatment; provided that the individual’s consent shall not be considered as a prerequisite to any exercise of any authority under this part.”

Even though the CDC believes it can force all the above procedures on individuals and groups, it also uses “voluntary agreements” for the sole purpose of making forced actions easier to perform. Anyone breaking these “voluntary agreements”, even if they didn’t agree to them, is subject to criminal prosecution.

“individuals who violate the terms of the agreement or the terms of the Federal order for quarantine, isolation, or conditional release (even if no agreement is in place between the individual and the government), he or she may be subject to criminal penalties”

Will the CDC use armed agents to enforce?


4 posted on 09/02/2016 9:00:30 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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This will only apply to native-born Americans.


5 posted on 09/02/2016 9:00:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

God,I hate legalese.

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6 posted on 09/02/2016 9:02:50 AM PDT by Mears
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I skimmed it. Didn’t study it. But the provisions for immigrants/refugees, etc seem too loose. Take a look at TB, which is a problem with some immigrants/refugees. They are allowed to go anywhere depending on the stage of their TB. Of course, once at the new location, the stages advance.


7 posted on 09/02/2016 9:07:07 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: MarchonDC09122009; Old Sarge; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Art in Idaho; Candor7; easternsky; ...

PING!!!

Based on CDC’s 8/15/16 publication of ‘ Rules for the Control of Communicable Diseases’, the CDC is giving itself the power to forcibly apprehend healthy people en masse, and detain them indefinitely with no process of appeal.

Article and comments

Thanks, MarchonDC09122009


8 posted on 09/02/2016 2:05:14 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
INFECTIOUS DISEASE PING LIST

News SOURCE :Federal Register

Based on CDC’s 8/15/16 publication of ‘ Rules for the Control of Communicable Diseases’,

SUMMATION: the CDC is giving itself the power to forcibly apprehend healthy people en masse,
and detain them indefinitely with no process of appeal.

” If you would like to be added to or deleted from this Ping List, please FReepmail me. “

9 posted on 09/02/2016 3:15:59 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
INFECTIOUS DISEASE PING

Regarding : CDC’s 8/15/16 publication of ‘ Rules for the Control of Communicable Diseases’

This is a Proposed Rule change by the Health and Human Services Department on 08/15/2016

This document has a comment period that ends in 42 days (10/14/2016) If you wish to ubmit a formal comment

10 posted on 09/02/2016 3:22:55 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I can’t help but wonder what on the horizon has prompted this now. Who got a hold of what?


11 posted on 09/02/2016 3:27:39 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
SUMMATION: the CDC is giving itself the power to forcibly apprehend healthy people en masse, and detain them indefinitely with no process of appeal.

******************

Thanks for the ping, TIK.

12 posted on 09/02/2016 3:34:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

We live in a police state.


13 posted on 09/02/2016 3:42:15 PM PDT by firebrand (Sorry. I'm just getting started for the day.)
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To: Whenifhow

Based on CDC’s 8/15/16 publication of ‘ Rules for the Control of Communicable Diseases’, the CDC is giving itself the power to forcibly apprehend healthy people en masse, and detain them indefinitely with no process of appeal.

Article and comments

Thanks, MarchonDC09122009


BUMP!!!


14 posted on 09/02/2016 7:07:23 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (This election is about Nataional Sovereignty, Liberty, and Freedom for future generations)
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To: 444Flyer; Nachum

Ping


15 posted on 09/02/2016 11:43:22 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Domestic Church

“I can’t help but wonder what on the horizon has prompted this now. Who got a hold of what?”

Just what I was thinking.


16 posted on 09/02/2016 11:45:26 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Oh, look, the Secretary of HHS previously ran the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation and its global initiative and has served on the board of the CFR:

http://www.hhs.gov/about/leadership/secretary/sylvia-mathews-burwell/index.html


17 posted on 09/03/2016 12:42:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: HollyB; Domestic Church

It is the winding down of the Obama Administration and establishment of his progressive “legacy”.


18 posted on 09/03/2016 12:44:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
9YearLurker:" Oh, look, the Secretary of HHS previously ran the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation
and its global initiative and has served on the board of the CFR:"

Yeah, Ever notice how so many of the various governmental agencies come from the same organizations that they have oversight ?
Its a revolving door from FDA to Big Pharma ,or Giggle.com to committees intellectual property and then return back to Giggle.
Under this administration there is a regular revolving door from private industry ,to governement, to going back to private industry; it's almost incestuous !

19 posted on 09/03/2016 1:50:08 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
HHS/CDC recognizes that the right to engage in travel within the United States is a privilege of national citizenship

BUT. There's always a but for citizens. There is not but for foreigners who can bring in whatever diseases they wish.

20 posted on 09/03/2016 10:20:37 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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