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Civil Rights Commission: ‘Religious Liberty,’ ‘Religious Freedom’ Code Words for Intolerance, Homop
cnsnews.com ^ | 9/9/16 | Penny Star

Posted on 09/09/2016 2:36:40 PM PDT by ColdOne

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To: HLPhat
Do you know the difference between the News forums and the Religion forum or are you just so rabidly anti-Catholic that you can't control yourself ?

Sixty million plus dead infants say that "Christian" America is more lethal and Satanic than the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church Christ Himself founded that you refer to as "Rome".

Satan has been attacking the One True Church for two thousand years. It weathered the Arian heresy and it will weather the current attacks which, by the by, began right here in the US of A when it was American Bishops and CINOs in American pews that embraced Modernism and set out to destroy the Church for not allowing them to quietly go along to get along in US secular society.

have a nice day

41 posted on 09/10/2016 12:46:04 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin
>>Do you know the difference between the News forums and the Religion forum
 
Yep. Do you know what this means...
 
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
 
...
 
 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
https://www.google.com/webhp?#q=truth%20is%20great%20and%20will%20prevail%20if%20left%20to%20herself

..?


If you don't understand how it relates to Religious Liberty and Religious Freedom, and how the Fallible and Uninspired entities mentioned above have been enemies of Religious Liberty and Freedom throughout history - then maybe you're in the wrong Republic.

42 posted on 09/10/2016 12:53:34 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

What, nothing about the evil Jesuits or other Catholics ?


43 posted on 09/10/2016 1:49:50 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

“truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them”
—Thomas Jefferson

“We are at liberty to be real, or to be unreal. We may be true or false, the choice is ours. We may wear now one mask and now another, and never, if we so desire, appear with our own true face. But we cannot make these choices with impunity. Causes have effects, and if we lie to ourselves and to others, then we cannot expect to find truth and reality whenever we happen to want them.
If we have chosen the way of falsity we must not be surprised that truth eludes us when we finally come to need it!”
—Thomas Merton

YMMV


44 posted on 09/10/2016 2:58:43 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

Apparently you haven’t left truth to herself, then.


45 posted on 09/10/2016 4:10:51 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

What deception was Merton referring to?


46 posted on 09/10/2016 9:43:43 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: ColdOne
“And so, down with religion and long live atheism. The dissemination of atheist views is our chief task.”

Lenin, 1909
The so-called “Civil Rights Commission” is pure, unadulterated Marxism.
47 posted on 09/11/2016 9:18:05 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: HLPhat
So now you're Merton. Were you per chance Napoleon yesterday?

48 posted on 09/12/2016 11:01:24 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin
>>So now you're Merton.
No.  This is Merton: 
"We are at liberty to be real, or to be unreal. We may be true or false, the choice is ours. We may wear now one mask and now another, and never, if we so desire, appear with our own true face. But we cannot make these choices with impunity. Causes have effects, and if we lie to ourselves and to others, then we cannot expect to find truth and reality whenever we happen to want them.
If we have chosen the way of falsity we must not be surprised that truth eludes us when we finally come to need it!”
—Thomas Merton
So. What deception did he have in mind?

49 posted on 09/13/2016 12:45:14 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat
So you've changed the subject to Merton in order to avoid my point to which you never replied which was, by the by, :

Sixty million plus dead infants say that "Christian" America is more lethal and Satanic than the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church Christ Himself founded that you refer to as "Rome".

And while I'm at it, let's be clear about the "America" you're defending as opposed to the America of your fantasy vision. Here is what the America you're defending now stands for and it's been heading this way for a long, long time.

“You can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the ‘basket of deplorables.’ Right? They’re racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it.… Now some of those folks, they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not American.”

Now whatever you want to claim and pretend America is, the above is exactly how the people who run the country look at things, and it's exactly how they've looked at things at least since the seventies. So, people who see Christians who stand by their faith as nonentities who aren't even Americans act in the name of the citizenry, manage the country in keeping with that view, and are, like it or not, America at the moment.

But you'd like to discuss something else, right ? Not the fact that what YOU started this line of discussion with is absolutely false by any standard if you take all the exaggerated lies combined and toss them at "Rome" you still come no where near the number of people America as now run (and has been run for decades) has slaughtered. Even the worst liars can't match just the number of Americans the official policy of this country has slaughtered in the womb much less all the Americans who have died from various forms of abuse and calamity they'd have never suffered because the ruling elites have run this country like their own fiefdom for nearly sixty year. Add to that the people slaughtered around the world just since Clinton decided to give the Muzzies Kosovo and only someone totally out of touch with reality would even pretend what you call "Rome" comes anywhere near being even a tenth as lethal as this country has been.

You state that "Rome" yada, yada, can't defend that point, and now say we're discussing Merton ?

Typical troll behavior. Canned BS that can't be defended.

Now go get your shinebox.

50 posted on 09/13/2016 10:59:31 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin
>>So you've changed the subject to Merton in order to avoid my point

No, I was just pointing out that I'm not Merton... who evidently, per the text I quoted (and that you'd evidently like to ignore) had some sort of deception in mind.

So, what sort of deceptive  monkey business WAS he contemplating?

51 posted on 09/14/2016 6:42:53 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat
So you spout an egregious calumny against what you call "Rome" which amounts to slandering billions of Catholics who have lived during the past 2000 years and who are alive today but I should ignore that blatant lie and hopscotch through your list of talking points with you ?

What sort of monkey business were you contemplating when you dropped a lie as if it was fact and refuse to deal with your own statement ? What do I care about any quote until you address the lie that began this series of comments ?

52 posted on 09/14/2016 7:23:52 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

Merton contemplatively answers that for you.


53 posted on 09/14/2016 7:39:29 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat
Figured you'd stick to your talking point manual. Thanks for the confirmation.


54 posted on 09/14/2016 8:27:48 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: ColdOne

Commissions and Commisars infect this nation.


55 posted on 09/14/2016 8:30:11 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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To: Rashputin

>>Figured you’d stick to your talking point manual.


2 Thessalonians 2:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


56 posted on 09/14/2016 9:06:24 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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