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Snowden is turning into a liability for Putin
The Japan Times ^ | Sep 19, 2016 | by Leonid Bershidsky

Posted on 09/19/2016 10:02:04 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister

BERLIN – Edward Snowden is increasingly unhappy with the situation in Russia, where he has lived for more than three years. President Vladimir Putin once welcomed the National Security Agency contractor for his propaganda value, but he may be wondering if it’s all been worth it.

Snowden arrived in Moscow in June 2013. That was almost a year before the Crimea annexation, and Russia could still try to sell itself to radical leftists who admired Snowden as the lesser evil, compared with the Big Brother United States. Putin talked a lot about Snowden, showing obvious delight for thumbing his nose at the U.S., which had tried to intercept the whistleblower. He described Snowden as a “weird guy,” an idealist, who was safe in Russia even though he had no secrets to pass on.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
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Considering he's offered to give US intel to the Brazilian government in exchange for asylum, no support from me.
1 posted on 09/19/2016 10:02:04 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister
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To: CorporateStepsister

Anti Snowden propaganda...again. The government and the intelligence community craps all over the constitution and bill of rights by massive illegal domestic spying...he let us know about it. And the American Stasi wants him badly so they can lock him up for the remainder of his natural life.


2 posted on 09/19/2016 10:07:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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He described Snowden as a “weird guy,” an idealist, who was safe in Russia even though he had no secrets to pass on.

Well... he doesn't have any MORE secrets to tell. He already told everything he knows. He has no sympathy from me.

3 posted on 09/19/2016 10:12:24 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: DesertRhino
Anti Snowden propaganda...again. The government and the intelligence community craps all over the constitution and bill of rights by massive illegal domestic spying...he let us know about it. And the American Stasi wants him badly so they can lock him up for the remainder of his natural life.

Dude, that's like, second-order ramifications... don't go confusing people...

4 posted on 09/19/2016 10:17:54 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: DesertRhino

He broke the law; if every single worker decided they had a right to spill secrets about our government, we would end up with so many operatives in danger. As far as it should have been, one thing if he had taken info about the domestic spying, but he’s taken a lot more than that. If he has given information about our operatives (where they live, their position in the agency) then he has placed so many others in danger.

Then he mouths off occasionally and thinks that a lack of pardon will endanger democracy? Talk about egomania.


5 posted on 09/19/2016 10:32:37 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: exDemMom

Soon Putin will tire of him and Snowden will either be shipped back to the US if Putin wants to develop better relations with the US; or Snowden will end up dead if Snowden keeps bashing Russia, while living in Russia.


6 posted on 09/19/2016 10:34:12 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Red herring. The old “expose that they are spying without giving away any secrets”. The problem is the government has gone completely off the deep end, not that they might be exposed.


7 posted on 09/19/2016 10:57:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: CorporateStepsister

The law was broken? Trite point when stated by those who utterly flipped off the 4th amendment, and rely on secret courts to enforce secret law.
You don’t get to break that law all day long, then bitch that Snowden broke a law.


8 posted on 09/19/2016 11:01:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: CorporateStepsister

I expected this to be from the NYT or WP. Snowden is a threat to Hillary.


9 posted on 09/19/2016 11:15:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fifty days until we take measures to end this nightmare. Trump, for the Free World...)
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To: DesertRhino

The terrorist attacks were used to create a police state operation by our elite Uniparty leaders whose big business and big banking contributors do busine$$ with the terrorist creating part of the world.

They fawn over Muslim (Arab) money like Milburn Drysdale used to fawn over Jed Clampett’s money on “The Beverly Hillbillies” show I used to watch as a kid.

So the answer isn’t military action against the heart of the enemy but spying on our own people.


10 posted on 09/20/2016 12:26:18 AM PDT by Nextrush (Remember Pastor Niemoller: Freedom is everybody's business)
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To: DoughtyOne

Japan Times is an extension of LA Times, New York Times, and WaPo... I stopped my subscription with them about a decade ago.


11 posted on 09/20/2016 12:45:36 AM PDT by Bikkuri ((...))
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...And then allowed Hillary and all of her people compromise highly classified material over a four year period, the destroy massive amounts of evidence and then be given a clean slate to run for the presidency...


12 posted on 09/20/2016 3:30:52 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Ozzie and Harriet are dead.

If every single worker leaked everything we would seriously deter corruption in high places.

“National Security” has become a joke when our “leaders” are working 24-7 for a one-world government of, by, and for the very rich.

Respect must be earned.


13 posted on 09/20/2016 3:46:15 AM PDT by cgbg (Warning: This post has not been fact-checked by the Democratic National Committee.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Rebellion against tyranny is obedience to God.

the surveillance state breaks the stated words of the Bill of Rights, violating not only the intent, but the very text of our governing document.

exposing the treasonists who perpetrated this, by whistle blowing...should be rewarded... and those who support the surveillance state as it was running at that time... need to be incarcerated at the very least.

When they violated the Bill of Rights, there should have been a bloody revolt.

And putting it in perspective, Hillary did more to damage our national security than anybody and folks want to throw the guy who exposed her and obama’s violations. Snowden is somehow a criminal?

Sorry, Snowden is a GREAT American hero. Single handedly he FORCED the termination of illegal phone tapping, wire tapping, phony fisa courts, illegal collection of papers and personal data by a government agency, without obtaining the constitutionally required documentation of checks and balances. His actions, forced the changing of the laws, probably the only thing that saved us from Obama’s plan of wiping his opponents out.

Snowden should get a hero’s welcome and a ticker tape parade.


14 posted on 09/20/2016 3:59:06 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: CorporateStepsister

I think it is an act. Snowden is still a Russian asset. They make him make some noise about Russia in western press to increase his credibility that has started to slip so he can fulfill his main role - attacking the West - better.


15 posted on 09/20/2016 4:02:14 AM PDT by Krosan
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...even though he had no secrets to pass on.

Anyone who believes that is kidding themselves.

16 posted on 09/20/2016 4:15:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DesertRhino
Anti Snowden propaganda...again. The government and the intelligence community craps all over the constitution and bill of rights by massive illegal domestic spying...he let us know about it. And the American Stasi wants him badly so they can lock him up for the remainder of his natural life.

I'm with you. He's a true Patriot in my book. I'd wager some here would have shot Paul Revere off his horse if given the chance.

17 posted on 09/20/2016 4:20:48 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: CorporateStepsister
He broke the law; if every single worker decided they had a right to spill secrets about our government, we would end up with so many operatives in danger. As far as it should have been, one thing if he had taken info about the domestic spying, but he’s taken a lot more than that. If he has given information about our operatives (where they live, their position in the agency) then he has placed so many others in danger.

On the flip side - the lawmakers constantly break the laws with impunity and then create new laws making it illegal to point out their tyranny.

Hell of a conundrum - ain't it?

18 posted on 09/20/2016 5:19:18 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Snowden stole 1.7 million secret documents and escaped to China! From there he went to Russia. It is pretty clear Chinese and Russians have gotten all the secrets he stole by now.


19 posted on 09/20/2016 10:56:49 AM PDT by Krosan
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He didn’t just leak that the government was spying, he TOOK millions of additional files worth of information. I don’t think it was just about the spy program, but those files must contain VERY valuable info about more than just the NSA spying system. Over a million files of info isn’t at all just about a simple spying system. IF the Chinese let him stay and then go on to Russia he must have something considerable.

As for the rest, he is trying to sell info to Brazil in exchange for official political asylum. Please explain to me WHY that is patriotic? How is that standing up to tyranny?


20 posted on 09/20/2016 11:39:00 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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