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AT&T spying on Americans for profit
The Drudge report ^ | 10/25/2016 | kenneth Lipp

Posted on 10/25/2016 5:28:43 AM PDT by mythenjoseph

The telecom giant is doing NSA-style work for law enforcement -without a warrant-and earning millions of dollars a year from taxpayers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: nsa; projecthemisphere; spying
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1 posted on 10/25/2016 5:28:43 AM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: mythenjoseph
Well DUH.

Johnny Fever explained all of this in an episode of "WKRP in Cincinnati" many, many, years ago when he was screaming about the "phone cops".

Those who understand the reference and recall the episode get it, those who don't recall the show of course won't understand.

Either way, why the Hell wouldn't AT&T look at snooping as a profit center?

2 posted on 10/25/2016 5:39:40 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: mythenjoseph

Last week it was Yahoo spying on the email, now AT&T...pretty soon we’ll have to drag out the rope with a can on each end to communicate.


3 posted on 10/25/2016 5:39:49 AM PDT by wright2bear (#NeverTrump is a mental disorder!)
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To: mythenjoseph

T & VZ once being one have always known where a call came from and where it went.Not news.
Now its the same with Cell routing just a bit more sophisticated.

I don’t own one but knowing the ins and outs of an antiquated #5ESS switch probably never will.Switches if there even call that anymore are much more “intelligent” and probably much much more than the average user.
Best thing to ever come law enforcement’s way..Smart Phones in Dumass Hands

I suppose the best thing to do is to go into you Way-To-Smart Phone and disable as much as you can as far as tracking and privacy goes and be a good boy or girl.


4 posted on 10/25/2016 5:48:48 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: wright2bear

Every telecom does this and earns a profit on the activity. It is a condition of doing business. The hardware to facilitate snooping is compulsory for any company doing business in telecom.


5 posted on 10/25/2016 5:49:40 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Rashputin

agree


6 posted on 10/25/2016 5:49:59 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Rashputin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTPzTG1Lx60


7 posted on 10/25/2016 5:56:58 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: mythenjoseph

Well, we are safe. Our AT&T U-verse internet is out half the time. The other half of the time, it’s so slow we think it’s out. After they bought DirecTV, our bill for DirecTV went through the roof, and we dropped it. Be warned, Time Warner cable customers: they want to buy Time Warner, so they will be screwing up cable TV next.


8 posted on 10/25/2016 6:09:01 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: CGASMIA68
Wow, thanks FRiend. Loved that whole series.

Didn't give any thought to it being on YouTube.

Regards

9 posted on 10/25/2016 6:14:28 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: txrefugee
They broke up AT&T then the funniest thing happened. All the right people made money off the pieces first getting big, off the pieces being sold back to AT&T, now guess what? All the right people got filthy rich without lifting a finger and AT&T is back where it started except that it's no longer regulated in any way, shape, or form.

I can't imagine how that odd twist of fate happened with our elected officials looking out for us. /sarc

10 posted on 10/25/2016 6:18:09 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Cboldt

What I am trying to point out is that this information is presented illegally and then after being obtained a case is then constructed within legal parameters...I am not trying to endorse or protect crime in any way but, where does privacy begin or end?...in any form of communication letters,phone ....and who is going to police the police that utilize this information?....


11 posted on 10/25/2016 6:18:41 AM PDT by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: txrefugee

Time Warner spun off Time Warner Cable a few years ago. TWC was bought by another company this year. AT&T is trying to buy the rest which includes CNN, HBO, Warner Brothers and a lot more.


12 posted on 10/25/2016 6:26:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (" T'was the witch of November come stealin' " And who could the stealing Witch of November be? Hmm?)
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To: Rashputin

all kinds of stuff on you tube like how to replace the kill switch lead on my honda wood splitter engine.Frike’en mice


13 posted on 10/25/2016 6:33:31 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: mythenjoseph

Ever read the End User License Agreement (EULA)? Most people just go ahead and click “OK” without reading the bits that address your new lack of privacy. Apps want permission to access contacts, files, microphone and camera, and people blytly provide it by being too anxious to catch the newest Pokémon or angry bird. Nothing sneaky about it, save for paragraphs of legalese. People are too dumb and/or lazy to read that they are eagerly giving away their privacy.


14 posted on 10/25/2016 6:39:15 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: mythenjoseph
Go ahead and laugh at me. I use a land line and pay for
my email address.

But, I don't whack people or go out and buy dope or drugs, or pick up prostitutes or look at porn.

If they track me, they'll be bored, all my trips to the grocery store, work and church.

Protect yourself. Nothing is free. If you have nothing to hide, no worry. If you have something to hide, protect yourself.

15 posted on 10/25/2016 6:41:59 AM PDT by BarbM (FUBO how tormented you must be, gay and muslime, black but white, and married to MOOCHE)
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To: BarbM

That’s not what I am driving at. I question the basic legality .....but good to know that at least you are as pure as the driven snow...good to know.


16 posted on 10/25/2016 7:00:50 AM PDT by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: mythenjoseph
-- ...and who is going to police the police that utilize this information? --

I principle, the courts, but that is a joke too. It is naive to think use of telecom services is in any way "private." The authorities who obtain those communications might be precluded from using it is a court case, and they might not. There was a class action suit some years ago, tried out in the 9th Circuit. Plaintiffs sued the telecoms under a US statute that forbids snooping without a warrant. They had evidence that snooping without a warrant was taking place. The courts threw the cases out on the basis that to conduct a trial would compromise state secrets. In the end, the law that forbids snooping without a warrant is toothless.

However, if the government wants to use what they got as evidence against you, they need either a warrant or a good excuse to have snooped without one. The feds have a secret court (FISA Court) to hear cases and issue secret warrants. For all we know, the so-called warrantless snooping is covered by a secret warrant.

17 posted on 10/25/2016 7:24:39 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: CGASMIA68
I hear ya', the little bastards got some of the air lines I keep for air tools and some of the wiring on my main compressor, too.

When I had Scotties, I didn't have that problem. I just had a problem cleaning up the little mouse corpses they were so proud of they'd bring em' in the house to show us.

18 posted on 10/25/2016 8:45:42 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: mythenjoseph

I have found a simple way to avoid being tracked like this. Eschew use of a cell phone.


19 posted on 10/25/2016 9:32:45 AM PDT by upchuck (Trump to the White House!! Hillary to the Big House!! h/t Jim Robinson)
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To: Rashputin

Off att topic but the Kubota tech that does major service for me told me of a trouble shooting problem for a not start/run that took a few folks to figure out.

Turned out the little bastard had built a nest in the exhaust of this particular machine.
They checked all the diesel components but never dawned on them all to see if it could exhale.
The guy that comes her got involved and said HE figured it out?
Pulled the nest boom started right up after many hours

Tractor company loves the mice owners not so much


20 posted on 10/25/2016 9:32:57 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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