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Jury finds all Oregon standoff defendants not guilty of federal conspiracy, gun charges
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/oregon_standoff_verdicts_annou.html#incart_big-story-1 ^ | 10/27/2016 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 10/27/2016 9:40:36 PM PDT by Nextrush

A federal jury on Thursday found Ammon Bundy, his brother Ryan Bundy and five co-defendants not guilty.......

"More than we could have hoped for," said one of Ammon Bundy's lawyers, J. Morgan Philpot......

Ammon Bundy, his hands clasped behind his back, nodded as the "not guilty" verdicts were read for him first. As he sat, he smiled and rubbed the shoulder of his lawyer, Marcus Mumford.

His older brother Ryan Bundy stood. As the "not guilty" verdicts were read, he nodded, and mouthed to the jury, "Thank you." Defendant Neil Wampler hugged and kissed his defense lawyer, Maxfield.

The coda to the stunning verdict, undoubtedly a significant blow to federal prosecutors, was when Ammon Bundy's lawyer Marcus Mumford argued that his client, dressed in a gray suit and white dress shirt, should be allowed to walk out of court, a free man.

U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown told him there was a U.S. Marshal's hold on him from a pending federal indictment in Nevada.

"If there's a detainer show me," Mumford stood, arguing before the judge.

Suddenly a group of about six U.S. Marshals surrounded Mumford at his defense table. The judge directed them to move back but moments later, the marshals grabbed on him.

"What are you doing?" Mumford yelled, as he struggled and was taken down to the floor.

As the deputy marshals yelled. "Stop resisting," the judge demanded, "Everybody out of the courtroom now!"

Mumford was taken into custody....

lawyer J. Morgan Philpot, said afterwards on the courthouse steps that Mumford had been arrested and marshals had used a stun gun, or Taser....

Philipot decried the marshals' treatment of Mumford in the courtroom. "What happened at the end is symbolic of the improper use of force by the federal government"....

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: ammonbundy; bundy; oregon; oregonstandoff; ryanbundy
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To: mad_as_he$$
The Marshal’s service behavior has been noted. I used to think they were the last fed agency that had some integrity.

You have to remember when the marshals captured an unarmed Eric Frein out in Pennsylvania, they beat him up, just to show that they could.

And that the Usual FR Suspects cheered it on...

41 posted on 10/28/2016 10:49:30 AM PDT by kiryandil (Will Hillary's BrownShirt Media thugs demand that The Deplorables all wear six-pointed Orange Stars?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Let’s have a “whoaaa Bundy!”


42 posted on 10/28/2016 10:51:14 AM PDT by daler
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To: Moonman62; Arthur Wildfire! March
There were other defendants who plead guilty.

You make me sick, Moonman.

Your little snark failed to mention that the Feds have a long-standing habit of throwing the book at "defendants" who stand up to them in a jury trial.

The ones who "pled" probably weighed their chances of getting the whole sentence as government revenge versus a reduced "plea" sentence.

Interesting that a freeper appears to be applauding government behavior that would cause a Founding Father riot on the spot.

43 posted on 10/28/2016 11:16:33 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Hillary For Prison 2016)
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To: an amused spectator

Interesting that a freeper appears to be applauding government behavior that would cause a Founding Father riot on the spot.

...

Like George Washington who took up arms against the Whiskey Rebellion while he was president?

Of course, you’re putting words into my mouth, while all I’m doing is stating the facts.


44 posted on 10/28/2016 12:15:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62; Arthur Wildfire! March
Of course, you’re putting words into my mouth, while all I’m doing is stating the facts.

While you're stating PART of the facts.

I'm just reminding Freepers that they have to parse your posts like parsing a Clinton statement. Just offering my assistance, since I've been parsing Clintonese for nearly 20 years... ;-)

Of course, I don't have to tell Arthur - he's been looking at Clintonese for the same length of time. ;-)

45 posted on 10/28/2016 12:42:04 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hillary For Prison 2016)
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To: an amused spectator

And you’re free to add whatever facts you want without making it personal against me.

Got it?


46 posted on 10/28/2016 12:45:42 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62
Nothing personal against you, MM. ;-)

Just noting your omission of standard FedThug trial tactics.

When someone posts Fedgov propaganda on FR, I feel the need to correct it. FedGov already has the MSM working for it and its Narrative.

There's plenty of people that share the "Bundys Are Guilty" Narrative on Twitter:

#Oregonstandoff

Check it out - you might like it over there better.

Got it? ;-)

47 posted on 10/28/2016 2:06:30 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hillary For Prison 2016)
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To: kiryandil

I’ve been keeping a very *light* [infrequent] ping list all these years hoping to help smart guys like you network with each other. When this election is over it’s getting mothballed.

Oh well.


48 posted on 10/29/2016 4:47:50 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: an amused spectator; kiryandil; SwatTeam; Strac6; maddog55; John Valentine; Publius; MHGinTN; ...

Back to the heart of the matter ... need legal eagles regarding this shocking incident.

[quote]

“If there’s a detainer show me,” Mumford stood, arguing before the judge.

Suddenly a group of about six U.S. Marshals surrounded Mumford at his defense table. The judge directed them to move back but moments later, the marshals grabbed on him.

[unquote]

Then the judge sides with the marshals? They should be in jail for contempt for starters, right? The judge presides over the court room.


49 posted on 10/29/2016 4:54:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: an amused spectator; Moonman62

Chiming in with you ...

If the other defendents had known that they stood a good chance of jury nullification [to nullify tyranny], they would have risked trial as well.

The only reason I hoped the forum would keep this issue tamped down was Machiavellian politics. Trump and Cruz were fiesty enough against the corrupt system as it was.

But with this new development, there’s a powerful force that the New GOP can tap into. Natural allies.

Just makes good sense.


50 posted on 10/29/2016 4:59:57 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
This is not the time to back down from these tyrants. It is time to say what we mean and be willing to back it up with what ever means at our disposal.

Some justice delivered finally.

Now to deliver some justice to the murderers that ambushed and killed the dirt rancher and family man from Arizona.

Bring them in handcuffed and on their knees in front of his family. Make them bow to them before being executed in the snow.

An eye for an eye.

51 posted on 10/29/2016 5:17:28 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Oh, and thanks for the apology but you do not have to apologize to me.

Just pick up the torch and come on we got work to do.

52 posted on 10/29/2016 5:17:28 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: an amused spectator; Moonman62

You are so right about Moonman.

Here is another sinister thing he posted ...

About-Face: Swedes Begin to Lose Faith in Multiculturalism
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3485842/posts?page=17#17

“So are most people in the US. That’s what happens when people trust people in authority who are crooked.”

17 posted on Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:05:54 PM by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)

[How ‘evil’ of Moonman! He wants Swedes to mistrust their government’s love of muslims. My thoughts exactly, Moonman — well said.]


53 posted on 10/29/2016 5:23:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: eartick

According to what others wrote, the justice was via jury nullifcation. The jury simply held the law in contempt as unconstitutional/unjust.

Works for me, FRiend. I’m all for brazen jury nullification against tyranny.

But that’s just half of the story.

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“If there’s a detainer show me,” Mumford stood, arguing before the judge.

Suddenly a group of about six U.S. Marshals surrounded Mumford at his defense table. The judge directed them to move back but moments later, the marshals grabbed on him.

“What are you doing?” Mumford yelled, as he struggled and was taken down to the floor.

As the deputy marshals yelled. “Stop resisting,” the judge demanded, “Everybody out of the courtroom now!”

Mumford was taken into custody....

~~~

So the defense attorney was arrested when he asked for a detainer. I assume they marshals had no detainer and were told by someone higher up to keep them behind bars by any means necessary.


54 posted on 10/29/2016 5:30:03 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: eartick

Unless something was left out of the article the judge allowed his courtroom to be taken over by thuggery. And then rather than lock up the federal marshals for contempt and assault, he locked up their victim.


55 posted on 10/29/2016 5:33:46 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Nextrush

Cross-linking update:

U.S. Marshals’ tackling of Ammon Bundy’s lawyer creates buzz in legal community

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3486513/posts

[I pointed out there that this article is more specific about why this is such an outrage.]


56 posted on 10/29/2016 2:29:15 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Nextrush

In the update ...

“The optics of tackling the lawyer who won – the optics of that are unfortunate in any situation,” Leonetti [the judge] said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3486513/posts

[Uh, yeah. And the agents were acting in contempt.]


57 posted on 10/29/2016 2:30:42 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Nextrush

Uups, a professor. I can’t read thoroughly until off-line.

Sorry.


58 posted on 10/29/2016 2:33:06 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hillary's Trickle Up policy: take bribes, sell sleazy pardons, water down AIDS medicine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Unless something was left out of the article the judge allowed his courtroom to be taken over by thuggery. And then rather than lock up the federal marshals for contempt and assault, he locked up their victim.

I am a good friend with a USM and he is retiring in a few days just because of this BS.

The USMS has been taken over by DHS and is not what it use to be along with our justice system.

My bud and I have had lots of discussions on this. He hates his job now and is ready to get out and join the 3%

59 posted on 10/30/2016 4:45:08 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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