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Republicans Are Courting Disaster on Health Care
New York Times ^ | January 4, 2017 | NYT Editorial Board

Posted on 01/06/2017 7:03:12 AM PST by Jim Noble

And so it begins. After six years of posturing and futile votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act, Republicans in the Senate have started a process to erase the most important provisions of the health reform law with a simple majority. Millions of Americans are at risk of losing their coverage.

Republican opponents of the health care law insist that it has failed, though it has reduced the number of uninsured Americans to the lowest level in history. They say that it has driven up costs, though health care costs have risen at a much slower pace since 2010 than they did in years past. And opponents promise they will somehow make health care cheaper and more readily available, though after all these years of reviling Obamacare they have yet to offer any serious alternative. The reality is that the repeal-at-all-costs crowd is ideologically opposed to any government role in the health care system, though every other advanced economy in the world has embraced some form of government intervention as the only way to manage costs and ensure universal access...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakenews; gop; obamacare
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I agree with the "courting disaster" part. Most people do not understand that it took fifty years of politicians giving people stuff they wanted, and not paying for it, that brought us to where we are.

Obamacare will be easy to repeal. Standing up in the winds of popular discontent that will blow after it is repealed will not be easy.

1 posted on 01/06/2017 7:03:12 AM PST by Jim Noble
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How about doing it the old fashioned way...THE FREE MARKET.


2 posted on 01/06/2017 7:05:02 AM PST by CMailBag
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Millions of Americans are at risk of losing their coverage.

Sorry, these millions are basically on Medicaid - taxpayer paid for healthcare and they will continue to have service.

3 posted on 01/06/2017 7:05:46 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Yet if they let it stand they stool be voted out next time for not keeping their word to repeal it


4 posted on 01/06/2017 7:07:10 AM PST by Sybeck1
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Wow! If the NY Times says it...it MUST be true!


5 posted on 01/06/2017 7:07:51 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: 1Old Pro

Yup. The expansion of Medicaid rolls in states where Governors like John Kasich were stupid enough to go along with it, is permanent.


6 posted on 01/06/2017 7:08:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jim Noble

The way I look at it, the Obamacare machine has thousands of knobs that can be tweaked or removed, and new ones can be added.

It will be an evolution. Step by step. I’m not worried at all.


7 posted on 01/06/2017 7:08:43 AM PST by cymbeline
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FO NYT!!!!


8 posted on 01/06/2017 7:09:07 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Fake news - CNN this morning ran a piece on a Trump voter benefiting from Obamacare.

MSM is in full-throated drive to save it.


9 posted on 01/06/2017 7:09:14 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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There’s no such thing as a “free market” in a sector of the economy that is built on the expectation that the cost of all products and services will always be paid by third parties. In a true free market, there would no government involvement ... and no insurance companies, either.


10 posted on 01/06/2017 7:10:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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Just about every doctor I know and know OF are more than happy to provide care to the truly needy and have NO problem picking up the slack until a righteous insurance structure is put in place .... All of these “We’re gonn’a lose our health care and be stranded on a desert isle” type of reports are bogus......... The doctors are American and idealists .... the elimination of obozocare will go without a hitch.


11 posted on 01/06/2017 7:11:10 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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This is the stupidest thing the NYT ever reported:

Millions of Americans are at risk of losing their coverage.

The braindead NYT does not understand insurance.

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Insurance is the organizing of pools of specific groups of people for coverage.

The "millions at risk" are a desirable pool of people......guaranteed to get coverage.

12 posted on 01/06/2017 7:11:32 AM PST by Liz (The Clintons' embracing humanitarian relief is like the Sopranos' embracing waste mgmt.)
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To: cymbeline

I’ve long believed that Obamacare will never be “repealed,” but it will be tweaked and revised until it no longer resembles its original incarnation.


13 posted on 01/06/2017 7:12:29 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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Yup.

People on Medicaid will keep their coverage.

MSM will never mention Democrats actually raided Medicare trust funds to pay for Obamacare.

Or how it was passed without a single Republican vote.

Its a mess and it doesn’t work.


14 posted on 01/06/2017 7:13:01 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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Courting? fixing?
Same thing when you’re pushing fake news. Pick the word that sounds best for your goal.

Why do the Ds and MSM keep using the term “health CARE”? The ACA was about INSURANCE. They put CARE in the title to fool people but have done nothing to make CARE more affordable or better. I guess “care” sounds better. And if you’re pushing fake news, who really cares what word you use?


15 posted on 01/06/2017 7:14:08 AM PST by LostPassword
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What’s wrong with medical savings accounts?


16 posted on 01/06/2017 7:14:15 AM PST by onedoug
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Oh no. The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!! Liberals????


17 posted on 01/06/2017 7:14:46 AM PST by jokemoke
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...opponents of the health care law insist that it has failed, though it has reduced the number of uninsured Americans to the lowest level in history...

The NYT does realize that they made having health care coverage mandatory, right? That not having coverage is punishable by ever increasing fines, right? Sure you can increase participation in something by forcing everyone to get it... That's not exactly a mark of success.

In fact it is basically an admission of failure. If obamacare was even half as good as its proponents claim it is, people would flock to it. You wouldn't have to threaten and penalize them if they did not.

18 posted on 01/06/2017 7:18:00 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Obamacare isn’t actually a free market.

What kind of marketplace allows you to buy health insurance only three months out of the year?

And the NYT talks about government management of health care as the solution to costs and coverage.

The old system was far from perfect but worked well for most people.

Now they they get skimpy coverage at highly inflated prices.

No, they never do get around to answering why the American people have consistently rejected Obamacare since 2010.


19 posted on 01/06/2017 7:18:50 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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though it has reduced the number of uninsured Americans to the lowest level in history.

If you have a policy which useless because of the high deductibles, are you really insured?

20 posted on 01/06/2017 7:19:56 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obama begat Trump)
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