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Salzberg Advises: Research PCGS Populations and Prices (coin population/price fixing?)
NGC ^ | 17 JAN 16 | Mark Salzberg

Posted on 01/18/2017 8:02:52 AM PST by DCBryan1

Dear Fellow Numismatists:

In November I announced that PCGS-certified coins would no longer be eligible for inclusion in the popular NGC Registry. I received many positive comments from those who have closely followed graded coin populations and prices. Others asked me, “Why? What is the difference between NGC and PCGS?”

Let me show you.

Over the last five years or so, I have noticed a perplexing trend at PCGS. There has been a dramatic increase in the grades assigned by PCGS for a wide range of coin types and, consequently, I believe that this has caused an extraordinary reduction in the value of many PCGS-certified coins.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coin; coingrading; coins; hobbies; investing; junksilver; lts; ngc; numismatic; numismatists; pcgs; prepping; shtf; slabbing
Don't know if this is company rivalry, but Salzberg wouldn't say this unless he had something:

In layman's terms, it looks like S&P is outing Moody's for not sloppy grading, but inflating population numbers (which is unethical and causes substantial price fluctuations (investment loss)).

Coin grading (or "slabbing") is professionally done and each coin is graded and assigned a number (like a security getting a CUSIP/ISN or stock symbol)

Coin collecting is pretty fun an the amateur side like I do, but you can get into some SERIOUS investment risk with the high grade, low population numbers.

A lot of us here at FR collect coins and stack "junk silver" for SHTF/LTS for barter.

Anyways, this is very pretty big news in a multi-billion dollar hobby market....about as big as news as the fake Chinese Gold coins that mimic our US Mint gold dollar and tungsten filled trading bars.

NGC certified coin

PCGS certified coin.

1 posted on 01/18/2017 8:02:52 AM PST by DCBryan1
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I collect coins and have some in the $1 or $2k range. What is known is that in order to have a $1m coin collection you just have to buy $2m worth of coins!

2 posted on 01/18/2017 8:43:21 AM PST by DC Packfan
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Both of those are pretty Morgans. I don't have any like that, as most of mine came from circulation.

The only real asset of these grading services is trust and the associated reputation. If they are inflating their grading, they are doing an extreme disservice to their customers, and in fact anyone interested in numismatics. Not doing themselves any good either in the long run.

3 posted on 01/18/2017 2:07:54 PM PST by zeugma (I'm going to get fat from all this schadenfreude)
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