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California Shouldn’t Secede from the U.S. [It should divide in two.]
National Review ^ | January 29, 2017 | JOHN FUND

Posted on 01/30/2017 6:25:21 AM PST by Leaning Right

Liberals used to hate secession, the notion that states could leave the Union as they did before the Civil War because they didn’t agree with the policies of the federal government. But with Donald Trump’s election, many California liberals suddenly have warm words for a budding ballot initiative that has just begun collecting signatures in order to place secession, or “Calexit,” on the ballot.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; secede; secession
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Neither secession nor division will happen, of course. But talk of dividing the state in two will at least distract and annoy the libs for awhile.
1 posted on 01/30/2017 6:25:22 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

Both NYS and Ca should be divided.


2 posted on 01/30/2017 6:27:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Leaning Right

LOL. My husband and I discussed this over the weekend. CA should be North and South CA. North is more conservative.

I live in VA and 80% of the counties went for Trump, but the populated areas gave the win to Hillary :(


3 posted on 01/30/2017 6:28:38 AM PST by sevinufnine
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no way in heck should we give California 2 more senators!


4 posted on 01/30/2017 6:30:33 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: sevinufnine

populated areas = Gimidats.
Its in every state


5 posted on 01/30/2017 6:30:40 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Leaning Right

The left need to be careful what they ask for.

Immediately after California secedes about 80% of the rest of the state, by land mass, will secede from them. Taking all water, food and electric production.


6 posted on 01/30/2017 6:32:16 AM PST by 2banana (My cng ommon ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Leaning Right

With only 1/3 support I agree, maybe in 3. California, Sanfagcisco, and LA.


7 posted on 01/30/2017 6:32:42 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Leaning Right

I would think that a sizable percentage of those living in areas wanting to succeed would actually want to become part of Mexico.


8 posted on 01/30/2017 6:35:52 AM PST by Nevadan
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California could actually divided into eighths

Los Angeles and San Francisco being independent, with the remaining 3/4 being a nice red state.


9 posted on 01/30/2017 6:36:59 AM PST by PGR88
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Immediately after California secedes about 80% of the rest of the state, by land mass, will secede from them.

Liberals are "Do As I Say, Not As I Do" folks.

So while California libs might want to take their state out of the Union, they would never allow California's rural counties to leave the state. To the libs, freedom is for the elite only.

10 posted on 01/30/2017 6:39:31 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

I think is should split into five. Texas too.


11 posted on 01/30/2017 6:41:14 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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California was admitted as a state in 1850, just two years and 7 months after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Because of the massive influx of people with the gold rush, they skipped the usual territorial stage.

When the borders were set, I don't know why they included the southern area--most of the population was in the north where the gold fields were. Did they think the southern area would never have very many people? The logical place to divide the area was at 36 degrees 30 minutes north, but the Northern Congressmen may have feared that would pave the way to the creation of a slave state in the area to the south of that line.

12 posted on 01/30/2017 6:45:37 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Texas has always had the right to divide itself into as many as five states. The problem is, all five would want to have the Alamo.


13 posted on 01/30/2017 6:46:40 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Leaning Right

Then use military might to liberate the secessionists from their uber-fascist California masters.


14 posted on 01/30/2017 6:48:52 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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Then use military might to liberate the secessionists from their uber-fascist California masters.

Good point.

I'm guessing the California National Guard would side with the rural farmers, and not with the urban elite. In fact, I'm guessing the California National Guard is made up of mainly rural farmers and other working-class folks.

15 posted on 01/30/2017 6:55:40 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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We don’t need to fix the state. California is a beautiful and rich place.

We need to fix the people.


16 posted on 01/30/2017 7:07:23 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Leaning Right

Several states that want to break up — why?

Within a few years, the Libs will have infiltrated the broken off sections and the new segmented state will be back in the same shape condition in a couple of decades — Libs running things and creating havoc.

Libs spread into non-Lib states. Look at Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico, Texas, etc.

Breaking up into another entity is not the solution. It is sort of like chopping off one’s arm because a finger has a splinter.

Man up! Take your state back! Otherwise, breaking the state up is like compromise, and look at what compromise has done — in DC, for example. In compromise, you lose and the Libs win.


17 posted on 01/30/2017 7:09:59 AM PST by TomGuy
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Just what this nation needs — a dozen future Venezuelas peppered along the coastal regions and inland.

You think they still won’t be suckling off FED money? Most foreign nations get some kind of FED money now.

As separate nation-states they would get the money without DC regulating how they spend it.


18 posted on 01/30/2017 7:10:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: sevinufnine

No north and South. That means LA and San Fran still run things. Divide the coastal third off and the Eastern part of the divide becomes one of the largest conservative states.


19 posted on 01/30/2017 7:13:52 AM PST by sheana
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To: Sacajaweau

I am so tired of the downstate liberals ruining my home.

They have turned it into a nightmare.


20 posted on 01/30/2017 7:18:18 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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