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EXCLUSIVE: A rector who marched against Trump, gay blessings, gun control... (Gorsuch Church) ^ | Feb 6, 2017 | Ruth Styles

Posted on 02/08/2017 6:51:25 PM PST by FR_addict

Meet Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch's ultra-liberal church St. John's Episcopal Church is led by a pastor who proudly attended the anti-Trump Women's March in Denver the day after the President's inauguration Rev. Susan Springer has said she is pro-gay marriage and offers blessings to same-sex couples Another member of the clergy is outspoken about the need for gun control The church's Rev. Ted Howard also signed a letter slamming the 'disrespectful rhetoric' directed at Islam as Trump floated a ban on Muslim immigrants Church authorities also appear to be strongly in favor of environmental initiatives and added solar panels to the roof because of 'climate crisis' If Gorsuch is confirmed, he will renew the Supreme Court's Christian majority and join as the only non-Catholic member

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To: yarddog

I know a Lutheran in Illinois who is as conservative as any Freeper, yet goes to the same Lutheran church his parents went to, despite behavior similar to that described in the article (female minister, too).

The Episcopalian Church as a whole is officially pro-abort and all that other stuff, and yet there are some high Church intellectual types who have not yet found a new home.

While the Catholic Church’s official position is correct on these sorts of issues, the shepherds of same, on up to the top do their best to distance themselves from them. As might be expected, those Catholic justices are a mixed bag.

Gorsuch’s mom was Reagan’s EPA head when he was coming of age. He saw what happened to her and has probably learned to keep his head down. The long-term strategy to be a Justice is different than the one to be a president.

101 posted on 02/09/2017 6:02:27 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: FR_addict

The spokes person for Gorsuch verified he DID make those derogatory statements about President Trump.

This job he has nominated for is way too important to the course of the Supreme Court to just defend it with ‘on the other hand’.

102 posted on 02/09/2017 6:05:54 AM PST by RetSignman
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To: FR_addict

How hard is it to nominate a born again evangelical solid conservative judge?

103 posted on 02/09/2017 6:15:51 AM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
That should thrill the FR Catholics, throwing off the Catholic Church for the Church of England... for a wife. Sounds like something one of the Tudors might have done, now what was his name?

I'm less worried about that than about the fact that he attended a Jesuit prep school and *then* converted. I'm a product of a Jesuit prep school. With rare exception, they turn out indifferent or apostate Catholics who very often leave the Church. In my experience, those who leave the Church for Episcopalianism are never anything close to conservative.
104 posted on 02/09/2017 6:25:21 AM PST by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: FR_addict

This pretty much describes any Episcopalian church I have known. I was bothered when I heard he was an Episcopalian, otherwise known as the Anglican church in America because it is hard to keep an orthodox, pro-life Christian point of view while under that influence.

My father’s side is all Episcopalian and they like to describe themselves as Catholic-lite to which my response is yeah and a Nerf ball is a lite bowling ball. My aunt, God rest her soul, was the only regular church goer among them and she was pretty liberal- supporting the “marriage” of my lesbian aunt and encouraging my dad’s book on Buddhist meditation.

105 posted on 02/09/2017 7:07:49 AM PST by Flying Circus (God help us)
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To: Antoninus

His record in the judiciary appears to be exemplary, to the extent that issues of concern to Constitutional Originalists have been put in front of him. I’m going to continue to rely upon that, however his educational and religious background as well as the nature of the church he has attended do worry me. I had assumed before today that he was a lifelong Episcopalian, that it was traditional in his family, an historical tie. I know the surname and a few who bear it, from Virginia, no doubt distant cousins. It’s an old colonial era Virginia family. I’m prone to being rather reflexively suspicious of Episcopalians, rightly or wrongly. I suppose this too is due to historical family ties of my own, in colonial era Virginia.

106 posted on 02/09/2017 7:09:13 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Flying Circus

In my younger, far less religious and more libertarian days, I attended the backyard marriage ceremony of a lesbian couple, friends at the time. It was officiated by an Episcopal priest. Even then, it felt so utterly wrong.

107 posted on 02/09/2017 7:18:33 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: FR_addict

“Lou Dobbs said Gorsuch owed Pres. Trump an apology.”

Laura Ingraham also was pissed off about what Gorsuch said.

It seems this man is one of those incredibly arrogant people who disguises the arrogance in a cloak of feigned humility. What, in Heaven’s name, would cause him to criticize the President who has given him the most wonderful career opportunity in his lifetime?

“I hope he doesn’t get confirmed.”

I’m leaning in that direction, too.

108 posted on 02/09/2017 7:23:19 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (“Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds." A. Einstein)
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To: Antoninus

“Really? Does the name Harriet Miers mean anything to you?”

It’s a good point but Trump is not Bush and Miers did not get the of initial and universal support from the Repubs that Gorsuch has. I just do not see Trump pulling the nom
and the more I see worse it is. The Rats are going to get their 5th Judge after all.

109 posted on 02/09/2017 8:09:47 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: FR_addict

Some people belong to churches that have become mega-liberal but might not have been that way 30, 40 years ago when they grew up in it. That’s not an excuse; but some people’s families have been in these churches for the longest time. I’m not going to name names but it’s not just the Episcopalians that deal with this though they might be the most stark example.

110 posted on 02/09/2017 8:16:58 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: FR_addict

The only real Church-going Conservatives then, might come out of the Southern Baptists.

Actually, our Court is low on Evangelicals and I have given this thought to it.

111 posted on 02/09/2017 8:18:33 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: All

Conservative outlets like Nation of Marriage like this guy, Cruz likes him. So, I don’t know.

112 posted on 02/09/2017 8:25:21 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: RegulatorCountry

I was much more libertarian (libertine?) in my younger days and, given my aunt was a practicing lesbian my whole life who I was taught to accept and I was indoctrinated to believe the Kinsey studies in high school and college, I would have probably been enthusiastically in favor of queer marriage if the idea existed. Funny thing is 25 years ago queer marriage didn’t exist as an idea except in the minds of a few radicals and now it is deemed a constitutional right by judicial fiat. We have fallen so far so fast. We cannot take another Souter or Kennedy on the bench.

113 posted on 02/09/2017 8:43:53 AM PST by Flying Circus (God help us)
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To: BeadCounter

All the most rock solid conservatives in the SCotUS have been regular, church going Catholics. Scalia was Catholic as is Thomas and Alito.

114 posted on 02/09/2017 8:50:39 AM PST by Flying Circus (God help us)
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To: Antoninus; BeadCounter; Flying Circus

Gorsuch family is Episcopalian since day one. Neil is direct descendant of Rev Gorsuch

for what it is worth. He didn’t pick a church out of the phone book.

115 posted on 02/09/2017 9:48:47 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (i WANNA HEAR MORE GLOATING!)
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To: Antoninus
So it’s looking like Trump basically picked David Souter to replace Scalia. If this is true, I’m back off the Trump Train.

Oh yee of little faith. The guy was suppose to have impeccable credentials, so I do not see how you can blame Trump if he turns out to be less sincere in his beliefs that his record suggests. I will consider it a gift from God if this guy is not true in his convictions and outs himself and Trump pulls his nomination.

The question I have for you though is when exactly did you get on the Trump Train? If anyone takes the time to look through your posting history they will see that it took you quite a while to get on the "Trump Train". I guess that it was sometime in October, because your comments in September look like your support was half hearted at best. I will give you credit for toning it down when people started getting zotted for not being supportive of the nominee. If one goes further back... it gets much worse. But trying to pass yourself off as a Trump supporter who has now become disillusioned seems a little disingenuous.

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‎9‎/‎27‎/‎2016‎ ‎10‎:‎11‎:‎16‎ ‎AM · 24 of 43 Antoninus to thefixisin

You said, "What he actually did say: “If she wins, I will absolutely support her.”

Remember that, Trumpets. "

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‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2016‎ ‎6‎:‎14‎:‎07‎ ‎PM · 110 of 130 Antoninus to jazusamo

You said, "I don’t blame Cruz at all for this. If he expects Trump to win, he should do it. Politically, it’s the right call."

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‎8‎/‎31‎/‎2016‎ ‎9‎:‎42‎:‎58‎ ‎PM · 390 of 469

You said, "Assuming he doesn't do something colossally stupid before election day (not a given thing), I will probably suppress my gag reflex and pull the lever for Trump."

116 posted on 02/09/2017 10:02:48 AM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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To: fireman15
You nailed him, fireman. Good job 👍
117 posted on 02/09/2017 10:25:24 AM PST by ResisTyr (esistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

There is a Gorsuch ski apparel company; it is mainly out of Utah and Colorado. I assume Neil Gorsuch is related to those who own this business. Pretty big in the ski industry.

118 posted on 02/09/2017 10:52:24 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: GSWarrior
He never pretended to be a Bible-believing fundamentalist

Yes he did. I saw him pretend to be one in many speeches he gave.

119 posted on 02/09/2017 12:06:37 PM PST by nitzy
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To: FR_addict

Are you seriously falling for this hogwash?

120 posted on 02/09/2017 12:08:12 PM PST by CityCenter (Why worry about Peak Oil when you have Peak Outrage?)
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