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Vermont and Guns

Posted on 02/19/2017 11:42:32 AM PST by ISTHISONETAKEN

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To: akalinin
Study their cultures. The answer is there. It is racist to say that they commit crimes because of their race. You are a racist.

I know many people who are black and many from countries outside of our own that do not understand why certain people in their communities behave as they do.

Case in point, I have a friend named Mukasa from I think Ethiopia that said he is baffled at the way the black communities behave in the United States.

I explained to him that many are fed a steady diet of the fallacy that the white man is holding them down, and they play racial politics etc. etc.

But hey I don't want to take up too much of your time, you probably have a KKK rally to attend.

61 posted on 02/19/2017 2:29:28 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
No, it’s simply true.

It may be true that Vermont has a low rate of violent crime, but the reason you assert is patently ridiculous.

The only other thing that is true is that your original statement is unambiguously racist.

Cordial racism is still racism, and for you to conflate Vermont's low crime rates with the high percentage of White people living there is the height of flawed reasoning.

It simply does not follow. It's the "logic" of a bigoted mind...

62 posted on 02/19/2017 2:31:12 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Try answering the question rather than being an annoying faggot.


63 posted on 02/19/2017 2:52:10 PM PST by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: sargon

We’ll have to agree to disagree, but I submit all empirical evidence is my side. Wish thinking is all you have.


64 posted on 02/19/2017 2:52:19 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
We’ll have to agree to disagree, but I submit all empirical evidence is my side. Wish thinking is all you have.

Whether your racism is merely based on blind hate, or instead you attempt to be justify it by so-called "empirical" evidence, it's still racism, and as such has no place in modern America, or in this community.

65 posted on 02/19/2017 3:02:33 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: marktwain

Interesting chart. The United States is listed at 3.9. Most of Africa is >> 3.9, but there are outliers.


66 posted on 02/19/2017 3:08:15 PM PST by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: sargon
Whether your racism is merely based on blind hate, or instead you attempt to be justify it by so-called "empirical" evidence, it's still racism, and as such has no place in modern America, or in this community.

Being rightously indignant doesn't change the facts, no matter how hard you close your eyes to the truth.
67 posted on 02/19/2017 3:13:07 PM PST by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: akalinin

The murder rate is driven by culture, but it is a particular kind of culture.

The question is whether the population believes that the criminal justice system is mostly effective, or not. If the population believes the criminal justice system is effective, the murder rate drops precipitously.

If you have a tribal system, murder rates skyrocket.

Gangs are proto-tribes.


68 posted on 02/19/2017 3:23:07 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: akalinin
Being [righteously] indignant doesn't change the facts, no matter how hard you close your eyes to the truth.

The only truth that anyone is closing their eyes to is you. And the truth is that you harbor and express racist beliefs.

You're free to harbor such foolishness, but you're not free to propagate it on this web site...

69 posted on 02/19/2017 3:25:54 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Vermont has about the least restrictive gun laws in the country and a homicide rate lower than any major country. Lower than Iceland, lower than Switzerland. White American just about never commit murder when living among other white Americans.


Vermont has a very low homicide rate, about 1.1 per 100,000.

Switzerland is lower, at .5 per 100,000 as is Japan, at .3 per 100,000, and several other countries, including Madagascar (black african) .6 and Burkina Faso (black african) .7.

Iceland’s rate is .3 per 100,000 same as Japan.

Yes, Vermont is very low, but there are countries that are lower.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Cross national comparisons are not exact, because of differences in data collection, definitions, and reporting.


70 posted on 02/19/2017 3:31:39 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: sargon
Being [righteously] indignant doesn't change the facts, no matter how hard you close your eyes to the truth.
The only truth that anyone is closing their eyes to is you. And the truth is that you harbor and express racist beliefs.

You're free to harbor such foolishness, but you're not free to propagate it on this web site...


You've stopped beating your wife, right?
71 posted on 02/19/2017 3:52:15 PM PST by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN
still no reply's
72 posted on 02/19/2017 3:55:23 PM PST by Chode (may the RATS all die of dehydration from crying)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

Nope, it’s not a coincidence.


73 posted on 02/19/2017 5:18:39 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: marktwain

This started as an article about gun violence, so let’s stick to that, shall we?

Vermont’s firearm homicide rate, over the last five years, is consistently around 0.3 percent - lower than most European countries, despite the fact we’re more heavily armed than any country there.


74 posted on 02/19/2017 5:28:38 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: mowowie

come on - almost everybody a moonbat?
Trump got 95000 votes in Vt.


75 posted on 02/19/2017 5:32:50 PM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

This started as an article about gun violence, so let’s stick to that, shall we?


“Gun violence” is a propaganda term of the left, used to demonize the possesion of firearms.

At the minimum, we should be looking at murder rates, not murder rates with guns.

The data suggests that gun ownership has little to do with murder rates. In the U.S. there is a statistical correlation with lower murder rates overall, but we simply do not have the data to make that claim for the world.


76 posted on 02/19/2017 5:35:50 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: Vermont Lt

They really just want to be left alone.


This is why I hang in there. I only need to interact with the outside world on my terms, otherwise I’m bunkered up at my spread. I have a few visitors by they are respectful and know that if they are not they are no longer welcome. There is no way I can live among the unwashed liberal masses anymore. If the taxes force me out I’ll have to find somewhere in the south west to live 10 miles down a 2 track.


77 posted on 02/19/2017 5:43:28 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: ISTHISONETAKEN

Whitest state with the least assurance that the fellow you assault is not armed.


78 posted on 02/19/2017 6:13:22 PM PST by arthurus
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To: miss marmelstein

I think that ended for Maine with the forcing into the statee of many Somalis. I understand that Rockland is pretty much a Somali town now.


79 posted on 02/19/2017 6:14:25 PM PST by arthurus
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To: miss marmelstein

I think that ended for Maine with the forcing into the state of many Somalis. I understand that Rockland is pretty much a Somali town now.


80 posted on 02/19/2017 6:14:39 PM PST by arthurus
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