Posted on 03/06/2017 1:06:00 AM PST by Helicondelta
Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey on Sunday said that President Trump is likely correct that there was surveillance on Trump Tower for intelligence purposes, but incorrect in accusing former President Barack Obama of ordering the wiretapping.
“I think he’s right in that there was surveillance and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general — at the Justice Department,” Mukasey told ABC’s “This Week.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Is it possible that Obama and his staff...were undermined by Lynch (in support of Hillary and the expected 2016 ‘win’)?
I could see Obama being so clue-less that he doesn’t realize what was going on and waking up now to realize all these Russia stories from within the Justice Department....were creations of a Hillary-Lynch gimmick.
What was that order that Zero signed before he left office that allowed our intel to communicate stuff to our allies’ intel before applying privacy measures? Because there really is no other reason, is there, for an English PM having knowledge, in November, of the existence of a ‘surveillance warrant of US persons,’?
“However, the former British MP Louise Mensch reported in November that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court had granted the FBI a surveillance warrant of “US persons” to investigate possible contacts between Russian banks and Trump’s associates. In January, the BBC reported that the Fisa court had issued its warrant in October.
Also in January, the Guardian reported that the Fisa court had turned down an initial request for a warrant, and that the judge had asked investigators to narrow the terms of their search.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/04/fact-check-trump-obama-wiretap-tweets-rumors
Equine excrement. Odungo was/is behind this 100%, as he has been with the manifold lawlessness of his alleged administration. A fish rots from the head.
“Because there really is no other reason, is there, for an English PM having knowledge”
The biggest unreported story is about the British interference in the election (to destroy Trump).
The Trump dossier was a failed October surprise compiled by a former British MI6 intelligence agent (Christopher Steele). Was Steele directed by the UK government?
See here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump–Russia_dossier
the article’s writer and liberal conspiracy theorists imho ignore the larger view that trump is throwing gasoline on a 2 alarm blaze. imho that is not what someone who is worried about the harm to himself would do (or what am i missing?).
trump is using the press and congress to drag obama, the clintons, lynch, comey, clapper and probably a host of underlings out from under a rock. let it happen.
(could obama sue trump for libel? if he could, why would he not proceed? enquiring minds want to know...)
The proof that Obama ordered it is the fact that he signed the executive order to relax the rules constraining information sharing on the NSA right before leaving office. A person would have to be willfully blind not to see this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html?_r=0
eg:
Basically there are two possibilities:
1) The media has been lying (there are no better words for it) during the last year or so. All the anonymous sources have been BS. There has never been any evidence, suspicions or major investigation of any "collusion" between Russia and the Trump campaign.
2) The Trump campaign has been "bugged" either via FISA-court order, or via completely black ops.
Trump has not divulged whether he had received any information from the security agencies or from the AG, or if he was relying only on publicly published news. However, his spokespersons when asked always refer to the numerous news articles that have been published over the last year (including such far-right media outlets as NYT, WaPo, Guardian, BBC.
This means we will eventually have either proof of a media campaign based on absolutely nothing - Fake News - or a political scandal that will pale Watergate in comparison.
And President Trump has with four short tweets turned the whole political discourse upside down.
There’s no way that Donald Trump was surveilled by federal intelligence agencies without a thumbs up from Obama.
Something is missing in the Obama push-back. “Approve” could easily be taken to mean “signed”. “Order” could be taken to verbally instruct the action.
What is not said in the Obama denials is the word “initiate”, as in “Loretta, what we need is more information on what this guy is doing. You know, it could affect the national security.”
A distinction without a difference.
Mukasey regularly defends infinite UNCONSTITUTIONAL wiretaps in the WSJ.
I’m not willing to say that Trump is overreacting. I’ve no doubt the wiretapping happened. Trump is usually right and Levin made the case brilliantly.
But I don’t believe for a second that BHO lacked guilty knowledge. What I think is that the defense being mounted is ‘I was clueless’ yet again.
The only caveat is that Obama had been working on a “new framework” that relaxed the intel sharing rules for years, and in fact had announced in early 2016 the coming implementation of the new rules:
In other words, it’s possible Obama would have done this even if the Trump situation hadn’t existed.
Yes, I see your point (and ConservativeTreeHouse’s point).
Here is the video of the 3/5/2017 kellyanne conway interview with fox news’ judge janine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyI4gNN080o
something in passing that strikes me as rather odd when considering it—
“... neither the white house nor the president will comment further until such oversight is completed ...”
this is vectoring in a much different direction than watergate, isn’t it? should not the MSM, especially the wapo, be the first to point that out? and welcome a complete and open investigation?
The fake news media is all over this today making Trump out to be crazy and that there is no evidence. What the hell is up with Comey though? We had Mark Levin yesterday present overwhelming evidence and this d-bag Comey comes out saying it’s not true?
Are you sure Obama ordered a rule change that allowed easier sharing of info with foreign agencies? I’m thinking the new rules only applied to sharing between US agencies. The Brits probably learned of the FISA investigations through illegal leaks.
Have you seen or heard Comey say this, or have you read NYT referring to “some persons high up in the FBI” relating what Comey is supposed to have said? Remember what congressman Gowdy said last Friday: Be very careful before trusting anonymous sources in WaPo and NYT.
This discussion needs to be in front of a federal grand jury with Jarrett, Comey, Clapper sitting in the witness box and Sessions at the podium.
Don’t think WaPo is interested in a complete and open investigation at all. Given the scenarios I listed above only two possible outcomes: MSM including WaPo shown up as complete #FakeNews sites, or Obama involved in spying on political opponent.
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