The Damage the Freedom Caucus Has Done May Be Felt for Years

1 posted on 03/27/2017 3:53:21 PM PDT by Helicondelta

To: Helicondelta

NONSENSE! I’m sick of hearing this crap. The bill WAS Obamacare! Those guys simply did what they promised the American people. We wanted that monstrosity REPEALED, NOT REPLACED!

2 posted on 03/27/2017 3:55:43 PM PDT by WXRGina (Repeal and DON'T replace!)

To: Helicondelta

Still beating the dead horse of Ryancare? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: mbynack; All; onyx; JustAmy; trisham; RedMDer; musicman; MEG33; deoetdoctrinae; xzins; Lady Jag; ... Costs go through the roof when the government unconstitutionally mandates that everyone MUST be covered and must be covered for all kinds of crap they don’t need or want and regardless of preexisting conditions or whether they can pay for it or even if they are not citizens. Tyranny is expensive. To our Republican Representatives: Repeal 100% of Obamacare and replace with free enterprise/free market solutions per the U.S. Constitution! Nothing else is acceptable or workable. Socialism, communism, fascism, central planning, etc, is totalitarianism and never works!! Our federal government and our constitutional republic was not designed to be and was never intended to be a welfare state! Our Constitution was designed to prevent all this TYRANNICAL crap! We rebelled against a tyrannical king for a lot less than this! No excuses. If the house or senate rules are obstacles to repeal with a simple majority vote, then change the damned rules already! The constitution gives you the majority the power to do that. We voted in Republican majorities and a Republican president specifically so you can do this, ON DAY ONE! Just shut up the ridiculous whining, hand wringing and squabbling and quit trying to pass tyrannical unconstitutional bills and just get repeal DONE as is your constitutional DUTY!! For crying out loud are you the elected representatives of the free citizens of a free market constitutional republic or are WE the captive subjects of a tyrannical USSR style communist government with a centrally planned economy? To all: Does the constitution even matter to you people anymore? Does the Republic matter? Does Liberty matter? Does a free market economy matter? Our constitutionally limited government was not intended to take care of us from cradle to grave. It’s NOT their job!! Conservatives and the Freedom Caucus are not our enemies. The big government globalist establishment is! And if we go along with it trying for a free lunch, we are. The government does not owe us health care or health care insurance. It’s NOT a God-given right! Wake the hell up, people, it’s later than you think. 70 posted on ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2017‎ ‎2‎:‎56‎:‎37‎ ‎PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)

3 posted on 03/27/2017 3:56:01 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)

To: Helicondelta

More like the principled stand the FC took will pay dividend for year.

ryancare, aka obamacare heavy, was a freaking train wreck.

Because ryan and his ilk didn’t have the stones to walk up and say “yes, people will lose their coverage. We are removing a large welfare program and those getting it will be done.”

The more I read and hear about this POS proposal, the more I am sure we dodged a bullet.

We can live with obozocare until we get our ducks in a row and implant some backbones.

4 posted on 03/27/2017 3:57:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)

To: Helicondelta

Obama and the Democrats own Obamacare. Trump and the Republicans would have owned Ryancare.

5 posted on 03/27/2017 3:57:48 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)

The JebTV network is very very angry.

6 posted on 03/27/2017 3:59:36 PM PDT by relictele (`)

To: Helicondelta

“All’s well that ends well.”

Let it play out.

7 posted on 03/27/2017 3:59:42 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")

To: Helicondelta

We wanted Obamacare decapitated, so Ryan brought it to the barber for a little haircut.

8 posted on 03/27/2017 4:00:50 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)

To: Helicondelta

Phooey....It was RyanCare.

Got to vote “yes” before you will be allowed to read it.

Well, where have we heard that line of throught....Nancy P.

This dead chicken needs to be hung around Paul Ryan’s neck!

9 posted on 03/27/2017 4:01:29 PM PDT by ptsal

To: Helicondelta

They saved Trump. Ryan needs to be removed for putting a Bill that couldn’t even pass with an overwhelming majority in the House.

10 posted on 03/27/2017 4:02:34 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)

To: Fantasywriter

And every back on this forum backing Ryancare both understood that, and wanted it to happen.

11 posted on 03/27/2017 4:02:48 PM PDT by MrEdd (MrEdd)

To: Helicondelta

FoxNews is feeling left-out and struggling to acquire the banner of #FakeNews outlet. Sorry, Fox, the conservative base of the Republican party THANK the Freedom Caucus for saving us from becoming responsible for ObamaCare.

12 posted on 03/27/2017 4:02:56 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")

To: Helicondelta

Fake news anyone?
The Freedom Caucus just saved the Republican Party and Donald Trump. Just imagine trying to decent Paul Ryan's Obamacare Lite in the 2018 and 2020 elections. We'd get slaughtered.

13 posted on 03/27/2017 4:03:31 PM PDT by SmokingJoe

To: Helicondelta

“...Republicans will own those higher rates....”
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Bull Crap!! The ‘RATS will own the higher rates.

Had RyanCare legislation passed, the Republicans & Trump would have owned the equally higher rates since snake-in-the-grass Paul Ryan CHOSE to not include ANY of the provisions that would have helped lower health care & medical insurance costs.

The Freedom Caucus prevented this from happening -— not that they’ll get any credit for it from the Congressional RINOs or from Trump.

14 posted on 03/27/2017 4:03:58 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)

To: Helicondelta

So, the Congress rejected the attempt to enact a bill pretending to replace ObamaCare with a slightly different flavor of the same thing—thereby preventing the GOP from becoming the new owner of the problems with the US healthcare system. And the author honestly thinks that’s a bad thing?

It’s not. Nor do I believe the author really believes that, either. These people write and say what they’re paid to write and say by those who would benefit from the policies they champion.

15 posted on 03/27/2017 4:05:29 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))

To: Helicondelta

Hysterical. Rambling.

This woman is absolutely daft.

Under Ryancare, premiums were EXPECTED TO RISE 15 to 25% until 2020.

Sorry if the facts don’t fit your GOPe agenda Elizabeth but you’re not allowed your own set.

President Trump will be fine once he learns to consult with conservatives first. Not last.

16 posted on 03/27/2017 4:05:31 PM PDT by KyCats

To: freedumb2003

“More like the principled stand the FC took will pay dividend for year”

Insurance premium hikes will start hitting people next month. The Freedom Caucus killed the repeal and left town for spring break.

In 1993 the dems controlled the house, senate and WH. When they failed to pass the healthcare reform they promised they lost the house and senate in 1994. Clinton still got reelected though.

If you don’t like the Ryan bill you’ll like the Pelosi bill even less.

17 posted on 03/27/2017 4:07:10 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)

To: Helicondelta

Republicans will own those higher rates.

Rates would have gone up under the AHCA as well so the Republicans would have owned them regardless.

18 posted on 03/27/2017 4:08:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg

To: Helicondelta

Keep digging/polishing! The Ryancare hole is getting deeper! And the polish is off the t**d!

#Fauxnews

19 posted on 03/27/2017 4:08:17 PM PDT by Drago

Just when the disaster that is Obamacare is about to implode, the GOPthee wanted to rescue it.

Got to keep Obama’s legacy untarnished, you know.

20 posted on 03/27/2017 4:08:23 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)

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