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Will Mexico get half of its territory back?
New York Times ^ | 4/6/17 | ENRIQUE KRAUZE

Posted on 04/08/2017 6:31:47 AM PDT by Dana1960

MEXICO CITY — The United States invasion of Mexico in 1846 inflicted a painful wound that, in the 170 years that followed, turned into a scar. Donald Trump has torn it open again.

Among the many lies that he has constructed, none is more ridiculous than his attempt to contradict history by presenting the United States as a victim of Mexico, a country that supposedly steals jobs, imposes onerous treaties and sends its “bad hombres” across the border.

To confront this fake history, some Mexicans are proposing to remind Mr. Trump exactly what country was the first victim of American imperialism. They are calling for a lawsuit that would aim to nullify the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (signed on Feb. 2, 1848), in which Mexico — invaded by American soldiers, its capital occupied, its ports and customs stations seized — was forced to accept the American annexation of Texas and concede more than half the rest of Mexican territory, now including most of the states of Arizona, New Mexico and California.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; immigration; mexico; stupidpeople
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h/t to Breitbart, which posted this as part as an overall commentary piece.
1 posted on 04/08/2017 6:31:47 AM PDT by Dana1960
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2 posted on 04/08/2017 6:34:50 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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That’s why Mexico its citizens into this area, so they can force a succession through mass numbers.


3 posted on 04/08/2017 6:35:01 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Spain exerted its hegemony over the natives and created a colony. The Spanish in Mexico had a revolution. So did the peeps in Texas. And on it goes.


4 posted on 04/08/2017 6:35:17 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dana1960

Oh. It’s the New York Times. Of course.


5 posted on 04/08/2017 6:35:32 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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I hope they try to take it back. I really do. It would be exactly the excuse we need to wage war against them.


6 posted on 04/08/2017 6:36:02 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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The usual Hate the Republic bull from the new york slimes. Mexico, you got a problem commit suicide by attacking us.

Many of us are sick and tired of your bs.


7 posted on 04/08/2017 6:36:42 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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>>That’s why Mexico its citizens into this area, so they can force a succession through mass numbers.<<

“Reconquista”


8 posted on 04/08/2017 6:37:31 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: Dana1960

A question, nothing intended by it. How/why should we be encouraged or whatever? Do you think B/T showed us something otherwise that would have not been seen? Just asking. Thanks.


9 posted on 04/08/2017 6:37:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Let’s play who’s the biggest victim!

It’s fun to watch the irrational conclusions brought about by that twisted perspective.


10 posted on 04/08/2017 6:37:48 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Dana1960

What exactly is keeping the NYT in business?
That’s a red oracle question, btw...


11 posted on 04/08/2017 6:38:50 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( rent this space)
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I sure wish they would agree to take back California. Tomorrow.


12 posted on 04/08/2017 6:39:45 AM PDT by madprof98
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Always remember, the USA paid Mexico millions in GOLD to give up all claim to the land from the Rio Grande, and later the Gadsden Purchase.Mexico accepted these terms.

Always remember, if the USA wanted to, they could have kept all of Mexico since the Mexican government no longer existed or fled from Mexico for many months. Today’s USA border could have been Guatemala.

Instead Mexico is trying to make it’s northern border Canada.


13 posted on 04/08/2017 6:40:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ("You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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With all due respect. This is posted from MEXICO. Last week at a birthday party, the chatter and talk around the table was exactly this. One of the political candidates for President is pushing this concept to rally support. Tis always ironic and a bit disconcerting to see people actually think that these issues can be solved in a court at the United Nations, or in Mexico City, without taking into consideration the people who live in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California. Even in 1846...people should have a RIGHT to form the type of government that they wanted, without outside interference.


14 posted on 04/08/2017 6:41:02 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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>>Three centuries before the ancestors of Mr. Trump landed on United States soil, there were Mexicans in that northern territory known as New Spain and Mexico. But neither they nor their descendants are even symbolically part of American national pride; rather they are objects of stereotyping or emblems of a disgraceful past that has remained, to a great extent, in obscurity. It is time for it to come fully into the light, to be recognized and vindicated.

You don’t get to be part of “American national pride” you don’t consider yourself to be fully American.

Hyphenated Americans are not Americans. You don’t get to pretend that you are capable of supernaturally being simultaneously fully Mexican and fully American. If you chose the hyphen, you chose poorly.


15 posted on 04/08/2017 6:42:25 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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I’d rather fix California, than give it back. Yes, that’s going to take some doing.

But that’s better than giving up that much real estate on one of our two major coasts.

No way, Jose! ;)


16 posted on 04/08/2017 6:43:46 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: Dana1960

Remember the ALAMO?


17 posted on 04/08/2017 6:45:08 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Dana1960
es, that’s going to take some doing.

Not worth the effort.

18 posted on 04/08/2017 6:45:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Buttons12

What exactly is keeping the NYT in business?
That’s a red oracle question, btw...
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Carlos Slim’s backing ,, you know the guy who demanded this story be told and worked into the Slimes “stylebook”.


19 posted on 04/08/2017 6:46:39 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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“IT’S TERRITORY”?
Not any more!


20 posted on 04/08/2017 6:46:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Islam mandates warfare against unbelievers and is absolutely incompatible with Western society.)
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