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South Koreans to Trump: No, Korea didn’t “used to be a part of China”
Hotair ^ | 04/21/2017 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/21/2017 10:07:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Korea was under the control of Japan from 1895 to 1945.


101 posted on 04/21/2017 1:17:35 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Today is just an argument about past history.


102 posted on 04/21/2017 1:17:57 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: DesertRhino

Completely agree.

I forgot the Greeks and Turks, Crips and Bloods, on and on


103 posted on 04/21/2017 1:27:06 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope. And I stopped going there since Malkin sold it.


104 posted on 04/21/2017 1:31:58 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL he’s messin’ with FatBoi


105 posted on 04/21/2017 1:32:01 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is facts)
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To: TexasGator

Dissing Trump our of ignorance is that poster’s strong suit.

Some #NeverTrumpers here at FR, no biggie.


106 posted on 04/21/2017 1:34:05 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is facts)
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To: SeekAndFind

Racism has been raised to an art form in east Asia. They all can’t stand each other. The Japanese are particularly sensitive about their origins. A study came out a few years ago indicating that the majority of modern japanese are genetcally of Korean origin. The Japanese had a fit, and refused to accept the results.

CC


107 posted on 04/21/2017 1:34:36 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Celtic Conservative

There also was a study that says that samurai origins go back to an Ainu guard force of a very early emperor. That historical study disappeared off the Japanese Archeological/Anthropological radar screen very rapidly!
I believe if memory serves it was an American author.


108 posted on 04/21/2017 1:43:04 PM PDT by Reily
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Allahpundit is raging douchebag nevertrumper. F him/her


109 posted on 04/21/2017 1:44:15 PM PDT by guido911 (all)
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To: Defiant

Back when education was worth a damn everyone knew that Korea was a part of China’s empire. Koreans have wanted to rewrite history to make it look like they were so tough that no one could ever beat or conquer them. Much like the crap that is said about Afghanistan.


110 posted on 04/21/2017 1:50:20 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

If someone told me China used to dip down into Korea, I wouldn’t know it didn’t at some point.

I know it hasn’t in the modern era.


111 posted on 04/21/2017 1:50:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: Reily

I see to recall that too. It started out with certain Samurai families having distinct facial features not shared with the general population. The Japanese also don’t like to remember that Samurai started out as tax collectors and “enforcers” for the daimyos and only later adopted bushido as a code of conduct.

CC


112 posted on 04/21/2017 1:51:35 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Mongol empire conquered Korea. So did the Tang dynasty.


113 posted on 04/21/2017 2:12:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: Bob434

These are keepers! LOL”

This one: ““Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel’s under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change.” (uh huh)”

LOL! I am glad that Israel will continue to be Israel’s friend. ;)

What a nincompoop!


114 posted on 04/21/2017 2:22:07 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people)d)
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To: xzins

Thanks for the mention. Not to belittle your information because it was informative to me, but this didn’t surprise me.

I figured there may have been points where China was in control of that territory.

I appreciate the post.


115 posted on 04/21/2017 2:24:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Parts of the area known today as the Korean peninsula where under Chinese control at various times.

"Han and Gojoseon

According to Korean Legends, Gojoseon was established by Tangun on the year of 2333BC, hence the name, Tangun Joseon. The earliest Chinese written record on Gojoseon, the most advanced polity on the Korean peninsula based in Pyongyang has been found in Shang-Shu-Da-Zhuan. It recorded the founding history of Gija Joseon which was established in the 12th century BCE. Chinese political culture was influential in Gojoseon; for example, the term Wang (Hangul: 왕; Hanja: 王) was shared between China and Korea to describe their respective "King"s.[1]

In 194 BCE, Wiman, a former Yan Chinese general, took over the throne of Gojoseon after disposing of its former ruler, and relationships between Han China and Gojoseon deteriorated. The Wiman Joseon–Han War occurred in 109 BC, resulting in the defeat of Gojoseon and the establishment of the Four Commanderies of Han to govern China's Korean provinces, the largest one - the Lelang Commandery - lasting 400 years.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sino-Korean_relations

"Gojoseon–Han War

The Wiman Joseon–Han War was a campaign launched by the Chinese Han Dynasty against Wiman Joseon between 109 and 108 BC. It resulted in the fall of Gojoseon.

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Eventually, in April of 108 BC, three of the ministers surrendered to the Han and Sam later let King Ugeo be assassinated. Under the leadership of Minister Seong Gi (成己), the people of Gojoseon still struggled against the Han. But, Seong Gi was also assassinated and the city finally fell to the Han.

Aftermath

After the war, four Han commanderies were founded to administer the former Gojoseon territories,[2] namely Lelang, Xuantu, Zhenfan, and Lintun.[8] The most significant commandery was located in Lelang (near present-day Pyongyang),[4] which controlled the region until 313 AD.[6] The conquest of Gojoseon in 108 BC by Han, ultimately led to the Proto-Three Kingdoms period of Korea.[9]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojoseon–Han_War

"Koreans and the Koreas find themselves in familiar territory

For more than two thousand years, successive Chinese dynasties have seen Korea as a tributary to be protected, a prize to be coveted, or as a dangerous land bridge which might convey “outer barbarians” into China.

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In 108BC the Han emperor Wudi conquered the northern part of the Korean peninsula. The Han empire proceeded to administer the area around modern Pyongyang for nearly 400 years."
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2013/04/korea-chinese-history

Others...

Ancient Korean & Chinese Relations

How an Ancient Kingdom Explains Today's China-Korea Relations

116 posted on 04/21/2017 2:26:42 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SeekAndFind

Korea was more or less a client state of China but was never actually part of China. All the countries around China’s periphery have been such client states some continuously, others at one time or another in the last couple of millennia. All these countries have felt obliged to have their rulers confirmed by the Celestial Emperor and have made pilgrimages to the Chinese Capital when there is a new ruler. All have paid tribute in the past.


117 posted on 04/21/2017 2:44:07 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Defiant

History I’ve studied always seemed to state that China basically had a say in it for a long time, though they allowed Korea to maintain their own court. They were basically a vassal state for a large number of years.

I’m sure the Chinese feel that this means it was there territory, while the Koreans feel it means they were always independent. Eye of the beholder.

Plan was to do the same with Japan, but TWICE typhoons disrupted the effort. Which is where the original term kamikaze or divine wind came from.


118 posted on 04/21/2017 2:55:42 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: SeekAndFind
The way things are going in geo politics these days, piss Trump off and you may just be part of China in the near future
119 posted on 04/21/2017 3:23:23 PM PDT by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: ifinnegan

>What relevance is it?

Because the Chinese are not going to give up North Korea willing because they feel they own it.


120 posted on 04/21/2017 4:23:49 PM PDT by RedWulf
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