Hollywood blames terrible reviews for people not going to see terrible movies

Hot Air ^ | May 31,2017 | Jazz Shaw

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Just $211.00 to 65.00%

[IronJack]

Baywatch. I mean ... Baywatch! Seriously?

[Ingtar]

The Boss Baby = 51% and made money.
Kong, Skull Island = 71% and lost money.
Lego Batman = 90% and made money.
Snatched = 37% and lost money.

[blam]

I'm not giving insane, anti-American leftists my money.

No way, no chance, bye!

[onedoug]

Fork Hollywood.

[jjsheridan5]

There are good things being produced. Just, not by Hollywood. For example, Italy’s Gomorrah (the TV show, not the movie, which was awful) was/is probably the best organized crime show since the Godfather (actually, I think it is better). Bloodlines was excellent, as was the first True Detective, and a number of other shows. In fact, in many ways, we are living in the golden age of visual entertainment. But the movies that are produced now, are utter garbage — trashy, juvenile, uncreative, boring, and uninspiring.

It is too bad, since sometimes going to a theater is a good break. But these days, the real quality is produced for cable and streaming.

[CaptainAmiigaf]

Good for you! You’ve listed 3 of the movies I always scan the Cable guide for, among other “oldies” of course. Watching a movie like “African Queen” for the 50th time is as great as hearing Beethoven’s 9th for the 51st time.
Real class NEVER goes out of date. When “JAWS” is on, my crew mutes the sound and recited all the lines as accurately as the case. Great FUN.
Many of us NEVER pay any attention to whatever it is that DrearyWood is putting out these days.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

“Guardians II was a ridiculous story. Ridiculous. “

To be fair, Guardians features a space racoon.

[dragnet2]

Why would anyone go to a strange venue that only has a couple of exits, with nothing but strangers all around, with a hot-dogs and cokes costing $10.00, just to watch a movie when I could do that in the comfort of my own home?

[AmusedBystander]

To be fair, Guardians features a space racoon.

And he was the best actor in the movie.

[tet68]

There’s got to be a word for this in the urban dictionary someplace, but darned if I can locate it. It’s probably some sort of “transference” phenomenon in the psychiatric sphere. So what do you call it when you produce a product which is awful and you blame its poor reception on the people who all agree that it’s awful?

When you find the correct terminology for that you can apply it to the DNC for Hillary! Clinton.

Same, same.

[Exit148]

Are any movies — with substance — being made any longer?

[TalBlack]

Hollywood is full of people with immense desire and intelligence but absolutely no damn talent for telling tales via film. They have no idea that EVERYTHING which appears on screen and or emanates from the audio speakers is NARRITIVE. They think they can create effects by replicating things other, talented directors have done in a specific context but out of context, in some belief that telling a tale is somehow modular ie; do this and you create tension, do that and it creates suspense do the other and it is poignant...etc. I can barely sit thru a modern film anymore.

[catnipman]

“They can wait and see bad films cheaply in the comfort of their homes.”

and in the meantime watch an amazing library of awesome Brit TV series, a large number of very entertaining TV series from multiple other countries, and one or two decent U.S. TV series like “Gotham”.

[catnipman]

“Baywatch. I mean ... Baywatch! Seriously?”

perhaps the ultimate proof of the total collapse of creativity amongst the Hollywood crowd.

[catnipman]

“Are any movies — with substance — being made any longer?”

no. creativity, such as it exists, has moved to a few really good original shows on cable and a few made-for-streaming shows.

[stanne]

To be fair, one of the best stories on film features a tin man and a talking lion

For that matter, Homer’s Odyssey features a many eyed monster, yet the engineers at NASA named a ship after it

Seriously, the first guardians I attended with my kid who gets me to all the superhero flicks. It turned out to be a good story.

As a lit teacher, I can say all good stories follow certain patterns and themes. If the characters illustrate a little love and then some humor along with some sort of appeal then it’s a good film/story, raccoon or no raccoon. Orc or hobbit

Guardians II is about Patricide. It’s not a theme people will relate to, remember nor see twice. It appeals to kids with deadbeat dads. But it’s not appealing. Even those kids, especially those kids, need to and want to see heroic stories.

[x]

People got smart, I guess.

Or they found other things to do.

In the 70s and 80s when this "Summer Blockbuster" thing got started, there were fewer entertainment options, so kids flocked to the theaters.

[discostu]

There is a definite problem with the aggregate sites in that they reduce everything to straight ups and downs and don’t bother with the guts. Used to be you’d read or see one or more reviews and you’d get to the WHY and you could filter their why through your taste, if what the reviewer complained about wasn’t stuff that bothered you you might decide to see it anyway.

The other problem with the aggregates is there’s an assumed math there that doesn’t really apply, a 70% positive movie isn’t necessarily better than a 60% or worse than an 80%, they just appealed to a different percentage of the reviewers. You can really see that when it comes to mid-budget and arthouse movies, they tend to not be reviewed by as many people, thus their math gets more prone to clustering, 70% of 50 reviewers isn’t the same as 70% of 100 reviewers.

Of course when you get right down to it the biggest problem is the beat book. They need to stop following that like a religion, it’s what makes all their movies feel the same. Move the meet cute 5 minutes later once in a while guys, really, you can do it.

[discostu]

The shared universe addiction really needs to go away. Canon drags down stories. And really adding a bunch of canon isn’t going to make the old Hammer Horror better.