Posted on 06/10/2017 4:24:46 AM PDT by markomalley
It's still an original. The "defect" here would be that the date on the memo is wrong. If the memo was created in March, and claims to have been created in January, the date on the memo would be viewed as falsified on purpose. But still, there is an "original," it just isn't exactly what it purports to be.
And then there is a question about the truthfulness of the contents. On that count there is direct disagreement. Either Comey is lying, or Trump is lying.
Discretionary and variable. Could be a note in your permanent file, or you could get fired, or you could be sued for money damages. Could be no consequence at all.
I think the culture at the FBI turns a blind eye to politically-motivated leaks, and that the people at the top leak with impunity, and have been doing so "forever."
..."Mr. Steiner wrote in the diary that senior advisers to Mr. Clinton wanted the agency to remain under the control of a political ally. He wrote that Mr. Clinton had become angry when he learned of Mr. Altman's recusal..."
Treasury Official Is Disavowing Whitewater Details in His Diary
Consistent obstructive by the Clintons and their minions spanning decades.
Yup. He was supervisor material.
Comey said he wrote the memo in the car on his laptop. I would assume he had that laptop with him in California when he was fired.
This clown should be locked up in the same cell with Hitlery for the rest of their lives. Whadda POS this guy is. Roll on, Trump....you were right all along.
So he destroyed evidence.
OPINION: The damaging case against James Comey
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I think the political ramifications of un-appointing Mueller are obvious. it would be worse than the fallout from firing Comey, and firing Comey was totally justified, see Rosenstein memo.
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IMO, not so. The pony show rubbed the nose of the public into the ‘there’s no THERE there’.
If Trump could be Trump, not taking any advice from the know-nothing-do-nothing-spineless (R) ‘advisors’, he could re-use a great (D) ‘tool’: “Can’t we move on?...”, “It’s all in the past...”, “Just how much is this COSTING the American taxpayers...”, “Congress is not getting its job done, instead focusing on a known witch hunt...”, etc.
And GRIND Schumer/Pelosi/Ryan/Turtle with it *EVERY* day. Make ‘em put up, or shut up. The public is already tired of 6+ mo. of nothing.
I take your presumed to mean classified by virtue of potus position and must be proven otherwise.
Again..not my understanding....but I have no regs or case law to point to
.do you?
If not classified, privileged.
Executive Privilege: The Semantics of "Presumption" and "Need" - 1998 U Akron Law Review
Background on Executive Privilege | Brennan Center for Justice | March 23, 2007
Exclusive: Dozens of Clinton emails were classified from the start, U.S. rules suggest
The U.S. government defines this as any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts. This sort of information, which the department says Clinton both sent and received in her emails, is the only kind that must be "presumed" classified, in part to protect national security and the integrity of diplomatic interactions, according to U.S. regulations examined by Reuters.I recognize that this is not directly applicable, because the confidential meeting was not between an offical of the US and an official of a foreign government.
Comey's rule is crazy. It's not classified because it was a personal conversation? And he is the last word on this?
Petraeus did not get executive-privilege treatment. His communications with Obama were deemed classified and he was prosecuted for failing to safeguard them.
Definitely not presumed classified.
The right word is privileged. There has been a lot written about how comey had the right to release the memo as it relates to privilege. .fbi contract -right and responsibilities is separate matter.
I have no opinion on it because I havent thought it through on privilege issue
Expand on that. What I read is that there is no expectation that privileged material not be leaked to the press.
I will stipulate for talking purposes there is no direct legal consequence such as violation of a criminal statute. What I am seeing though, is "a right to release," focusing on the words "a right."
"No controlling legal authority."
The snakes are free to subvert the government from inside, and because this is so uncommonly pursued through the courts, there is darn little in the way of controlling legal authority.
Make the wrong daring and big enough, and you get off because it's never been done before!
I cant. I would have to google..reread ..and post links. Too much on my phone. There are several lawyers opining why..how..etc as it relates to executive privilege and the comey memo
Since this is something I skimmed..and didnt think through all the ins and outs...I cant comment...except to say they are opining it doesnt apply in this case..
IIRC.... trumps public comments also have bearing on it
The memo (if it ever existed) was not a grocery list written while at work. It is the [supposed] documentation of a meeting between the Director of the FBI and the President of the United States.
How anyone thinks it is not a work product is beyond me.
I have an opinion on how Trump's public comments play in the context of justifying Comey's leak.
I remain troubled by the rule of law that people have the right to leak what is said to them by the president, but if that's what it is, that's what it is.
Yes..I cant do research on my phone for a variety of reasons and I dont recall the specifics outlined in the articles.
Comey perpetrated a criminal act. If he will do this he is also quite capable of lying to the public. He in reality is a felon!
His most heinous action was taking the bogus report about Trump partying with Russian Whores and engaging in a golden shower act on a bed. This report was obviously totally bogus. If Comey did not know this was bogus he is an idiot. He is not an idiot, he is a snake in the grass.
He used this report to justify a FISA warrant and this lead to the unmasking of American Citizens which is an illegal act when it leaked.
He’s a rat.
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