Did you notice? Comey's hands are not visible in the pussy hat pic....
And he does have a ***-eating grin on his corrupt face..... ROTFLOL.
Posted on 06/12/2017 11:43:48 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
WHAT MEMOS? I haven’t seen any gosh darn memos! Have you?
Until I SEE these memos (authenticated) I will be under the assumption that they exist only in Comey’s mind.
There is NO difference between Comey's testimony of what the memos say, and the versions reported by the press. Comey corroborated the version in the press - which could amount to "corroborating his own lie." The fact that he tells it repeately wouldn't make it any more true.
If I understand your theory, there is a yet unknown version of a Comey memo out there, that is even MORE FALSE than what the press reported.
I agree with your assessment. Sounds like Chapter 6 in a book....a book by Danielle Steele.
It is hard to believe anything you read these days. While most of the top level attorneys in Washington probably know one another and have worked together, I don't know if they are friends or just colleagues. Mueller is in his mid seventies while Comey is in his mid fifties. I have acquaintances 20 years my junior but none who would be close enough friends that I would risk my reputation and position for.
In different times, he would be hung a long time ago.
It seems Comey-the-Clown was attempting to entrap Trump for a later attempt by the DEEP STATE to REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE, like NOW.
It's time for Sessions to take the gloves OFF and make stunning revelations during his testimony hinting at WHAT HE FOUND IN COMEY'S OFFICE.
FWIW, The same person (who apparently knows Mueller) also said that Mueller was totally embarrassed at how badly Comey botched things during his tenure as FBI director.
No doubt it can be improved with more thought.
Rosenstein created this Frankenstein’s monster of an unaccountable, shadow government of partisan witch-hunters and he needs to be the one to carve it back to a narrow focus on investigations for which there exist a legitimate foundation and only where there are real and significant conflicts of interest with Trump admin to justify a SC and not a fishing expedition.
All we hear about is HOW THE RUSSIANS HACKED OUR ELECTION but MIRACULOUSLY DIDN'T hack Hillary's UNSECURED SERVER AT HOME?
Did you notice? Comey's hands are not visible in the pussy hat pic....
And he does have a ***-eating grin on his corrupt face..... ROTFLOL.
Comey created the monster, the bogus allegation there was some "Russian connection." When he got fired, the monster was still sitting there, and in spades in the press.
Rosenstein woule be pilloried if he fires Comey then closes Comey's investigations.
I'm cutting Rosenstein some slack. His "fire Comey" memo is excellent.
And at this point, we don't know exactly what investigations are on Mueller's plate. He may in fact have a narrow scope. Only the investigations that Comey spoke of in a Senate hearing.
I'm not advocating Mueller is a white hat, I don;t think he is. But I think it is the country;s best interest to let Mueller tell us what he is looking at, and what he has found, before jumping down his throat.
At the same time, and I know this will come off as contrdictory, I think the calls to "dump Mueller" are healthy. They force him to stick to his charter, and limit his range of partisan output.
WTH gives someone a memorandum of this importance without retaining a copy for one’s self?
This cannot give any credibility to Comey, which has been lost; it can only call McCarthy's into question.
I’m unable to cut Rosenstein slack on his initial appointment letter.
His authorization to investigate “links” or “coordination” between Trump people and Russia is vague and open-ended and not tied to a crime.
His authorization for Mueller to go after any other crimes he comes across directly in his investigation goes above and beyond the “process crimes” such as perjury that Mueller is already authorized in the Special Counsel regulation to go after.
The Special Counsel appointment should have been tied to the investigation of specific crimes, in particular the alleged hacking of the DNC and Podesta computers and any criminal conspiracy involving US persons or others in connection therewith.
I would like to know whether Comey or Mueller saw a draft of this appointment letter beforehand. And what discussions were had beforehand between Comey and Mueller, Mueller and Rosenstein, and Rosenstein and Comey.
It is bizarre that no explicit reference was made in the Appointment Letter to the alleged Russian computer hacking, which is the foundation of this entire matter.
It strikes me the omission was deliberate in order to draw focus away from the fact that the FBI and the DOJ never even investigated this, but relied unquestioningly on the DNC outside vendor Crowdstrike’s claims on this.
This is astonishing if the Russian hacking is a huge national security crisis as claimed by the Dems and the Never Trumpers, that the FBI never examined the hacked computers.
Excellent idea. Seems to cover all the bases. While we wait, Mueller will continue to hire cronies to soak up our money. They have no intention of conducting an investigation.
I agree that "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump" is, taken alone, pretty vague. But Rosenstein and Mueller are privy to specific open case files. The grant can;t disclose the specifics for the same reason the FBI doesn't disclose the existence of an investigation.
-- The Special Counsel appointment should have been tied to the investigation of specific crimes ... --
I agree with that, and I don't think that was met. Comey's bogus "muh Russia" myth is a political issue, stuffed into a criminal law mold. I don't think the 600.1 predicate exists.
-- in particular the alleged hacking of the DNC and Podesta computers and any criminal conspiracy involving US persons or others in connection therewith. --
I see that as distant from Comey's March 20 testimony disclosing the existence of investigations into coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. Mueller comes at this from only two directions to start. Evidence of Russian government activity that leads to the Trump campaign, or evidence of Trump campaign activity that leads to the Russian government. The DNC and Podesta hacks don't fit either one of those.
Assume for the sake of argument that the Russian government in fact worked to torpedo crooked Hillary. That doesn't mean the action was coordinated with team Trump. And if the Russian government wanted to lend Trump a secret hand, they would make sure they DIDN'T contact team Trump.
Other than process crimes, I don't think Mueller has anything to work with.
All that said, he could be just as faithful to "the law" as the 4th Circuit is, and stretch the law in absurd ways. There is quite a bit of that going around.
I'm much less sanguine on this.
The other matters language in the letter does not track the process crimes boilerplate. It is broader. As a matter of textual interpretation, it will be interpreted to mean something more than the process crimes.
I agree Mueller started off with nothing to work with. There is no and will not be evidence of a Trump conspiracy with the Russian government to commit election-related crimes, or we would have heard about it from Obama's intel agencies months ago.
But Comey has given them something to work with regarding the alleged obstruction of justice.
And with a broad investigative mandate of any link of anything Trump to the Russian government, soon the grand jury subpoenas will fly and Trump's entire life and the entire business of The Trump Organization will be scoured, on the premise that any evidence of any crime whatsoever that turns up in the investigation can be prosecuted.
I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.Because it is an open ongoing investigation and is classified, I cannot say more about what we are doing and whose conduct we are examining. At the request of congressional leaders, we have taken the extraordinary step in coordination with the Department of Justice of briefing this Congress' leaders, including the leaders of this committee, in a classified setting in detail about the investigation but I can't go into those details here. I know that is extremely frustrating to some folks. I hope you and the American people can understand. The FBI is very careful in how we handle information about our cases and about the people we are investigating.
As you know, just point it out for others, the predicate for appointment of a Special Counsel is NOT counterintelligence, but commission of a crime.
Another reason I post this section of Comey's testimony is to emphasize that some members of Congress, from both parties, know EXACTLY who is under investigation, and for what.
Burr mentioned in the hearing last week, for example, that Yates was pulling out the Logan Act to go after Flynn. Nobody has EVER been charged under that law, in the 218 years that law has been on the books. All that remains against Flynn is the possibility of misleading investigators. I submit that there is no more evidence to be gathered on that question.
Who else is under investigation? Sessions for discussions with Kysliak, that's all hyped-up nothingness. Carter Page, who the committees are BLOCKING from testifying.
Sessions is recused from all that, so some other player would likely disclose the extent of Mueller's view. Not that Sessions doesn't know it, or couldn't know it (the extent of open investigations as of march 20), and not that him giving a clinical description of the open investigations is a violation of recusal, I don't think his will be the voice that reveals just how thin this "muh Russia" thing is, in fact.
We have heard many times, there is NO evidence of Trump campaign connection with the Russian government. Comey has said it, congresscritters in the know have said it.
***To me, an interesting question is, what’s up with Comey’s claim that he woke up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat over Trump’s tweet that he might have taped Comey’s conversation?
Comey said that this prompted him to then leak his memo to the NYT through his law professor buddy Richman.
But people have pointed out that the NYT had already published an article based on the memo BEFORE Trump’s tweet and before Comey woke up in the night in a cold sweat.
And Sharyl Atkisson pointed out how strange it was for Comey to say this prompted the leak, when after all the tapes would be much better evidence of Comey’s account (assuming he is not lying) than an uncorroborated memo by Comey. So his reasoning makes no sense.***
Finally, someone else on this forum has voiced my exact question about Comey. Kudos to you for mentioning Sharyl Atkinson’s thoughts as well. I like your theory. It seems very plausible.
One thing I know for sure is that I always thought there was something off about Comey, and when he gave his presser on July 5 last year, I knew for sure that he was a man without integrity.
He thinks he’s the biggest, best thing ever to happen to mankind. He’s really just a piece of doggy poopoo.
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