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Now The USAF Wants to Cut A-10 Squadrons and Stop Re-Winging The Fleet
The WarZone ^ | June 9, 2017 | JOSEPH TREVITHICK

Posted on 06/16/2017 11:38:17 AM PDT by huldah1776

Not only has the fight not been won, but the Air Force's new arguments sound a lot like the old ones.

As more details emerge regarding the U.S. Air Force’s plans for the A-10 warthog in the 2018 fiscal year and beyond, it has become clear that the service’s apparent promise to maintain the entire remaining fleet of hardy attack aircraft was highly conditional and entirely temporary. The details come as the low- and slow flying planes continue to prove their worth in the fight against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Sadly, none of this is really surprising.

On June 7, 2017, two senior Air Force officials told the House Armed Services Committee that they were only planning on keeping at least six squadrons of A-10s through 2030. This stood in stark contrast to written statements from both the service and the Pentagon when it unveiled its portion of President Trump’s Fiscal Year 2018 budget in May 2017. Overview briefings stated, without the apparently necessary caveats, that the entire fleet of more than 280 aircraft across nine combat-coded squadrons would be “fully funded” for at least the next five years.

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As it turns out, the Air Force only requested money to “fully fund” the operations and maintenance costs – day-to-day expenses that include things like payroll, fuel, and basic preventive maintenance – associated with flying the A-10s. The service then shunted a request for money to replace the wings on more than 100 of the jets into its so-called “Unfunded Priorities List,” a wish-list separate from the budget proposal with items it hopes Congress might consider paying for if at all possible.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: a10; usaf
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cut force down to 6 squadrons, repair as needed, put the pilots in danger let alone not being there for the boots, eh?
1 posted on 06/16/2017 11:38:17 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Outrageous. Congress can fix this (again) with a budget mandate.


2 posted on 06/16/2017 11:43:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: huldah1776

No one becomes a general via the A-10. That’s the problem in a nutshell.


3 posted on 06/16/2017 11:44:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: huldah1776
GIVE THEM TO THE MARINES!!!!
4 posted on 06/16/2017 11:46:43 AM PDT by null and void ( The Flat Earth Society claims they have members all around the globe!)
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To: huldah1776

This has gone on too long. If the air force can’t be bothered to give us CAS give us the planes and we’ll train some warrant officers to fly them.


5 posted on 06/16/2017 11:47:44 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No one becomes a[n Air Force] general via the A-10. That’s the problem in a nutshell.

I bet a Marine would.

6 posted on 06/16/2017 11:48:12 AM PDT by null and void ( The Flat Earth Society claims they have members all around the globe!)
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To: Yo-Yo

The generals never wanted the A10 to begin with. It was forced on them. The airplane is not a high performance aircraft that general desire.

It is a work horse that does its job very well but is slow and ugly.

Funny thing is that it terrifies the enemy that is unlucky enough to fall under its gaze.


7 posted on 06/16/2017 11:48:19 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: huldah1776

There was a service member from a drone “squadron” wearing a flight suit behind me in line at the grocery store yesterday here in Florida. I could not believe his girth. Not exactly the sharp end of the force there. LOL. We really need these A-10s, IMO.


8 posted on 06/16/2017 11:50:15 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: null and void

There’s an idea. Give the planes to the Marine Corps or the Army.


9 posted on 06/16/2017 11:51:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: huldah1776
I hear an UN NAMED source talking! Tell the name(s) of the never to be elected or promoted source(s! We deserve to know.
10 posted on 06/16/2017 11:53:47 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: huldah1776

Air Force would rather have three aircraft that could do the job of one A-10.


11 posted on 06/16/2017 11:53:56 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Pontiac

There’s an old story that an AF General used to say, “The A10 was designed around the nose gun, the F15 around the radar and the F16 around the ejection seat.”


12 posted on 06/16/2017 11:55:37 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: huldah1776

A B-1b flying at 50,000 ft can do more damage with precision weapons...to precise targets on the ground...than a squadron of A-10’s.

Armor, vehicles, reinforced emplacements...none out of reach for destruction. Especially when using CBUs.


13 posted on 06/16/2017 11:55:43 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: huldah1776

Idiots prefer new shiny gadgets...even if they don’t help the mission


14 posted on 06/16/2017 11:55:50 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudslo)
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To: lodi90
What is the nature of your objection?

That we have armed UAVs?

That they are organized into squadrons?

That their operators wear flight suits?

That one of these operators had girth you could not believe?

Why do you suggest that operators of armed UAVs are not the sharp end of the force?

Do you have reason to believe that this UAV operator was incompetent?

15 posted on 06/16/2017 11:58:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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Move CAS, including fixed wing, exclusively to the Army and Marines.


16 posted on 06/16/2017 12:00:33 PM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AHHHHHH! I was wondering about the money, but didn’t consider the rank promotion! Obviously never been in the military. That makes perfect sense. sigh.


17 posted on 06/16/2017 12:01:37 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Used to be the case. Not anymore.
Most all generals have A10 time, rare to find one without Hog time.


18 posted on 06/16/2017 12:02:23 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Mariner
A B-1b flying at 50,000 ft can do more damage with precision weapons...to precise targets on the ground...than a squadron of A-10’s.

I believe that.

19 posted on 06/16/2017 12:02:46 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And watch them go bankrupt trying to maintain the jet while in the field, as well as maintain logistics and weapons.

Can’t do it.


20 posted on 06/16/2017 12:04:35 PM PDT by Hulka
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